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Power Surge · May 11, 2005

royb said:
Thanks for clearing that up. Magnuson didn't know they were not making the 05 blower for saleen.

& OPCON/Autorotor purchased Lysholm in 04 so they have something to do with KB but not directly.

at at rate I sent the blower back to saleen since they lost their credibility with me. I'll wait for the KB or Whipple & hope they are better.

Actually Lysholm bought Opcon/Autorotor. It was what's called a reverse merger. Since Opcon/Autorotor had a stock market seat, the official deal shows Opcon/Autorotor (a much smaller company) buying Lysholm (a much larger company), this way the stock market status could be kept and used by Lysholm. But to the outside world, it appeared that O/A bought Lysholm.

JM2005 · May 12, 2005

CobraIILover, How was the supplied tune on the PCM for that car with the Saleen?....did you talk to the owner? Did they have any complaints?

Thanks in advance!

Power Surge · May 12, 2005

JM2005 said:
CobraIILover, How was the supplied tune on the PCM for that car with the Saleen?....did you talk to the owner? Did they have any complaints?

Thanks in advance!

He said Saleen makes you send them your PCM for them to flash directly. He overnighted it and got it back in a few days. He said the car runs well with the kit installed and their flash. I was pretty surprised to hear that, because I've tuned many factory blown Saleen cars and their tuning was pretty bad. But he assures me the car doesn't miss a beat with the 05 setup and flash. But that's also only at 5 psi. He also said Saleen told him the car should make 400 RWhp with this setup, as is, at 5 psi. I find it hard to believe that the car goes from 265 rwhp to 400 rwhp with just 5 psi. He is going to bring it back to me when he gets time and we'll throw it on my dyno.

JM2005 · May 12, 2005

Thanks Cobra...please keep us posted on the Dyno results..I am VERY interested in this SC set up and am anxious to see the real world results as upposed to reading hype.

HMSPORT · May 13, 2005

To let you guys know, 5.0 mag just tested the 05' S281 SC and got a 12.8 at 114 in Saleen stock trim. The N/A S281 went 13.5 at 103.9.

That new supercharger sounds pretty promising.

kpribble@terrib · May 13, 2005

HMSPORT said:
To let you guys know, 5.0 mag just tested the 05' S281 SC and got a 12.8 at 114 in Saleen stock trim. The N/A S281 went 13.5 at 103.9.

That new supercharger sounds pretty promising.

They sound great - I sure hope it lives up to my expectatioin!!

Thanx for all the help Casey!!

trent_ky · May 14, 2005

id love to supercharge my stang but im holding out for the gt500...

PolkThug · May 14, 2005

HMSPORT said:
To let you guys know, 5.0 mag just tested the 05' S281 SC and got a 12.8 at 114 in Saleen stock trim. The N/A S281 went 13.5 at 103.9.

That new supercharger sounds pretty promising.

Thank God. Those clowns and C&D don't know how to drive or something.

rage1605 · May 16, 2005

crash said:
At that power level, I would NOT suggest using the stock injectors.

I would suggest at least a 90mm MAF and 42#ers. This comes from experience. We have blown up two 2-valve 4.6s with stock MAFs (80mm).

The stock fuel system should support 3-5 or maybe 6 PSI but not 8-10.

Again, I want to see graphs before I believe ANY manufacturer aside from Procharger. The reason is, Whipple and Procharger BOTH give you a PCM or programmer AND injectors. The fuel pump should be fine.

Again, I would need to see data to make any changes or recommendations on the fuel system or tune.

Hey crash, do you think that it would be safe to put a Saleen Charger on the 2005 Stang? They wouldn't sell a 5k charger that would blow your engine would they?

I mean, if you keep it at the 5psi mark and not go above that...

harrier · Jun 3, 2005

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Madhouse · Jun 3, 2005

HMSPORT said:
To let you guys know, 5.0 mag just tested the 05' S281 SC and got a 12.8 at 114 in Saleen stock trim. The N/A S281 went 13.5 at 103.9.

That new supercharger sounds pretty promising.

I tried to call Anna yesterday - good luck with y'all's move. I'm close to being ready for one of those Saleen blowers!!!

harrier · Jun 3, 2005

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lostsoul · Jun 3, 2005

this has the saleen dyno in it :
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hotmustang331 · Jun 3, 2005

I have a feeling we will be seeing ALOT of blown up 3Vs before not too long. 400-420RWHP was the limit according to Tim on the 99-04 GTs, and the 3V is even weeker than the 2V. These companys are making 440+RWHP....I would dial it down to at max of 420RWHP if i were you guys. Thats were mine is being put at when I thrown on the TTs sometime next year...maybe a little after. I wonder how much that valve control thing is helping these engines? They seem to still be about on par with the 99-01 cobras and machs HP wise, both N/A and S/Cd.

PolkThug · Jun 4, 2005

hotmustang331 said:
I have a feeling we will be seeing ALOT of blown up 3Vs before not too long. 400-420RWHP was the limit according to Tim on the 99-04 GTs, and the 3V is even weeker than the 2V. .

Weak huh? SuperTune here in KC is putting down 485RWHP with stock internals. Hasn't blown yet (fingers crossed).

delurker · Jun 4, 2005

How did it get weaker?

harrier · Jun 5, 2005

so i'm thinking to myself, the saleen series VI makes big HP for its relative paltry 5psi. how can this be? everyone was talking about other blowers with no mention of saleen's.

but then i suddenly remembered a picture i saw a long time ago. someone just happened to be at the right place at the right time. eureka, this picture was a preview of what was to come.

sorry had to crop and resize image to the max. i'm up against my attachment quota limit.

Motorhead6T5 · Jun 5, 2005

hotmustang331 said:
I have a feeling we will be seeing ALOT of blown up 3Vs before not too long. 400-420RWHP was the limit according to Tim on the 99-04 GTs, and the 3V is even weeker than the 2V. These companys are making 440+RWHP....I would dial it down to at max of 420RWHP if i were you guys. Thats were mine is being put at when I thrown on the TTs sometime next year...maybe a little after. I wonder how much that valve control thing is helping these engines? They seem to still be about on par with the 99-01 cobras and machs HP wise, both N/A and S/Cd.

Actualy they are stronger,the block is stronger and lighter. The only part that could be considered weaker is the gap between the top of the piston to the top piston ring. And if you have a good tune and avoid detonation should be fine. In fact I havent heard of one person blowing up a motor yet with FI. As far as the 3v making power,I think you stated it yourself,they are pulling the same numbers out of the 3v as the 4v's,id say thats an improvment.And another thing is you can't just compare peak numbers,the variable cam timing creates more power down low,which the 4v's don't have. People are already pulling 340rwhp with bolt on's which I believe is more than your typical 4v. I also see more power per PSI coming out of these motors,don't know where your getting your info. This is just the begining, people haven't even been tuning the cam timing yet.

harrier · Jun 5, 2005

hmmm? that's odd. isn't anyone moved by the picture i posted above? does anyone not see the tatoo on her right rear cheek? when i first saw it, i nearly fell on the floor. and i was sitting down. woo, tough crowd to please.

PolkThug · Jun 5, 2005

harrier said:
hmmm? that's odd. isn't anyone moved by the picture i posted above? does anyone not see the tatoo on her right rear cheek? when i first saw it, i nearly fell on the floor. and i was sitting down. woo, tough crowd to please.

Its just a pic.

The S281E is rated at 500HP with changed internals.

I'm more interested in what can safely be acheived on stock internals.

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