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Just got my Maximum Motorsports C/C plates...

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The Green GT

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What alignment specs should I tell the shop I want? Best for everyday driving with a 2 inch drop.
 

Adam95GT

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they can find that out for ya... im gonna have to order plates soon... my tires are wearing a tad funny
 

The Green GT

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No I dont trust them to find it out for me. I want to bring them what I want and they will print me out a sheet with all the specs on them. When I first lowered my car they said I didnt even need C/C plates. A few months later, my tires are worn to the cords on the inside.
 

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I had mine done to 4.5' caster and -1.2' camber with zero toe. This is off the MM site. It handles really good....
 

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my tires are angled in and it wears on the outside not by much though.

and Iam running daytons probaly stock tire.

they say: you dont so you can go through tires faster and they sell you more tires.
 

HISSIN50

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Chris sounds like he knows some good specs (I don't know perf specs myself). My only advice would have been to check with MM, Steeda perhaps, or Ben.

I'd want to know some good specs before going in to a shop myself, even if the shop is supposed to know 'performance specs'.

Good luck!
 

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I run as much caster as the plates allow (I have steeda ones not MM ones, but this applies to you too). Our cars can never have too much caster, except maybe if you get to the point were your massaging the wheel well. As far as camber goes, I run -2.5 deg. and I do get some wear on the inside. But since I open track the car my tires only last like 5-10k mi. anyways. Depending on what milage tire you run I think you could get away with 1.5-2 deg. neg. camber. If you run low tread wear tires run -2 deg. and make sure you rotate them often. If you run a higher milage tire go with -1.5 deg.
 
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95snake103

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The Green GT said:
No I dont trust them to find it out for me. I want to bring them what I want and they will print me out a sheet with all the specs on them. When I first lowered my car they said I didnt even need C/C plates. A few months later, my tires are worn to the cords on the inside.
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I would find a better alignment shop after that experience.
 

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Paul
 

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95snake103 said:
I would find a better alignment shop after that experience.
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Beleive it or not, they are the best around.

Welcome to my world. lol


And i want the best alignment specs that will make my tires last. I dont car about performance at this point. Im tired of my tires wearing is ridiculous ways.
 

Bosko5.0

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MY rears wears in ridiculous ways. they also gets no traction for some odd reason.




And have you tryed setting it to the best of your ability?
It cant be that hard.
 

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If I have time sunday I might out them in and tey to set thekm by eye. Ill use a level to get it right for the most part. But Ill still get it aligned.
 

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Remember that when you change camber, you change toe a little bit.

Good luck.
 

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obviously you can tell them what alignment specs you want, and then there gonna tell you if we set it to your specs and not our specs and your tires wear uneven that will be your problem and not ours.

oh and btw we need you to sign on this dotted line saying we told you so.
 
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go-stang5.0 said:
I run as much caster as the plates allow (I have steeda ones not MM ones, but this applies to you too). Our cars can never have too much caster, except maybe if you get to the point were your massaging the wheel well. As far as camber goes, I run -2.5 deg. and I do get some wear on the inside. But since I open track the car my tires only last like 5-10k mi. anyways. Depending on what milage tire you run I think you could get away with 1.5-2 deg. neg. camber. If you run low tread wear tires run -2 deg. and make sure you rotate them often. If you run a higher milage tire go with -1.5 deg.
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i do not agree with maxing out the caster portion of the plate. mm even says that doing so will affect bump travel of the strut. i can't max my caster due to the coil-overs anyways. i do agree that if you have a bumpsteer kit that you chould optimize caster---it is gold. no bumpsteer kit, you are playing with fire.

me personally i run 5.5 deg pos caster--i have offset control arms with my plates about in the middle. you will not see this as the control arms added .75 pos caster just by themselves.

on my street car i run 1.0-1.2 neg camber and a slight toe in--i use deg and minutes on our machine and most other shops use inches so my toe settings will only confuse most alignment guys.

the key to a good alignment is having everything equal on both sides.

and yes when you change camber you will change toe.
 

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I aligned mine myself.....5.5 caster and -1.5 camber with it toed IN at 1/32
 

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bimmertech is right...about the caster part. I guess I forgot to mention I have a bumpsteer kit. I noticed you said you have a 2in. drop right? You may wanna get a bumpsteer kit also. I only have a 1.5 in drop and found bump steer obnoxius so it must be terrible for you.
 
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I found my bumpsteer to be significantly improved with the addition fo 96+ spindles.

additional data point:

Good tire wear and handling at
(1" drop)
4.8* caster
1.5* camber
.10" toe in due to bad bushings, Cobra arms in garage for install when I get to it.

John
 

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well i would say that shop sounds shady lol and i would take your tires in and tell them you want new ones they told you your car was aligned to spec and those tires really back that statment up.

i use a place that specializes in lower vehicles and i can tell you i have not rotated my tires in 3 years and they still look like they did when they came out of the box..
 

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good thread, i've had the cc plates sitting in my garage for the last month and i'll start putting them in this week. How long did it take some of your guys to do the install out of curiousity? I printed the instructions off of MM as well.
 
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