oh boy, here we go againGTOReturns said:You base your knowledge on a flow bench, I base mine on personal experience. New cars since the 90's run better with cats on. Ive been driving since1982 when you were playing with your GI Joe's. There not just for the air anmore,like they used to be in the 70's. Its all factored into your cars performance. And save the name calling for when your in school.
GTOReturns said:You base your knowledge on a flow bench, I base mine on personal experience. New cars since the 90's run better with cats on. Ive been driving since1982 when you were playing with your GI Joe's. There not just for the air anmore,like they used to be in the 70's. Its all factored into your cars performance. And save the name calling for when your in school.
agree'd. But how much torque is lost when people change the stock headers and h pipe on a stock motor? I wish T-Moss were here, or Michael YountDMAN302 said:Stock 5.0 will move the rollers to the tune of 190's in pure stock 5spd form. Usually upgrading the exhaust on these cars will net you 210-220 with a good tune, bumped timing and a upgraded air filter.
Maybe a little high (I said maybe), but you got the right ideaDMAN302 said:Stock 5.0 will move the rollers to the tune of 190's in pure stock 5spd form. Usually upgrading the exhaust on these cars will net you 210-220 with a good tune, bumped timing and a upgraded air filter.
Show me where I said this one thing and I will proceed to tell you about the other BS you pointed out!! And dont come back and say,oh,sorry dude I misread it!! Your up hot shot!mob said:I never liked gi joe's who cares how long youve been driving. You obviously dont know what your talking about, you say 4 stock cats will flow better then a free flowing pipe because it has more backpressure? What is backpressure? How does it work? You say an o/r hpipe helps up top, why? how do you figure? Why would cats restrict the car up top but not downlow, why would an o/r pi pe not be able to flow downlow but pick up at higher speeds? Do you blame it all on backpressure? Again what is backpressure? The term you should beusing is VELOCITY and cats does NOT give you more velocity. And I would not believe anything you are saying because like said before, its a mid pipe, stock, o/r or high flow cats you will FEEL NOTHING when your driving, and you have no numbers to prove your theory, so there are you. Your 20 or so years of driving has gotten you know where.
GTOReturns said:agree'd. But how much torque is lost when people change the stock headers and h pipe on a stock motor? I wish T-Moss were here, or Michael Yount
I DID FEEL IT!! How many people do you know that put back the stock h pipe?1fastsn95 said:youre not going to feel the power increase from exhaust. A dyno might tell you, but im convinced you wont feel it.
GTOReturns said:Pfff yeah ok. And what exactly do you have done to your heads? Thats why you can use an off rd pipe. It happened to me, Im not just picking this out of the air. OK, maybe it will start to pull harder at 120mph. But from 0-100 a stock motor runs better with the stock H.
Show me where I said this one thing and I will proceed to tell you about the other BS you pointed out!! And dont come back and say,oh,sorry dude I misread it!! Your up hot shot!mob said:Isnt the stock mid pipe a 2.25"? Aftermarket pipes are 2.5" This could be where the "backpressure" is going.
25thmustang said:So let me get this straight... A stock motored car with all the bolt ons will run faster and make more torque with a stock 4 cat, non mandrel bent 2 1/4" Mid pipe, than it would with a 2 1/2" mandrel bent off road midpipe...
You might be the dumbest guy on here this week.
And in 1982, I was not born yet, but the funny thing is, you apparently havent learned much in that time before I was born!
I love how flow tests mean nothing, but your SOTP meter is what counts, DUMBA$$!
Im sorry. I dont see how. I went from stock to off road to high flow back to off road on my 94. Never could I "feel" a difference. sounded different though.GTOReturns said:I DID FEEL IT!! How many people do you know that put back the stock h pipe?
Another guy who makes up his own novels. Yeah, I know how fast your running in the 1/4 and how stock your motor is!25thmustang said:So let me get this straight... A stock motored car with all the bolt ons will run faster and make more torque with a stock 4 cat, non mandrel bent 2 1/4" Mid pipe, than it would with a 2 1/2" mandrel bent off road midpipe...
You might be the dumbest guy on here this week.
And in 1982, I was not born yet, but the funny thing is, you apparently havent learned much in that time before I was born!
I love how flow tests mean nothing, but your SOTP meter is what counts, DUMBA$$!
GTOReturns said:Show me where I said this one thing and I will proceed to tell you about the other BS you pointed out!! And dont come back and say,oh,sorry dude I misread it!! Your up hot shot!
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you started, you say things that I dont,could you please find this so people will know you dont make up your own stuff as your going along?
i would have to agree. I dont see how it wouldnt.DMAN302 said:HP and torque will increase across the board.
Im waiting?GTOReturns said:Show me where I said this one thing and I will proceed to tell you about the other BS you pointed out!! And dont come back and say,oh,sorry dude I misread it!! Your up hot shot!
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you started, you say things that I dont,could you please find this so people will know you dont make up your own stuff as your going along?
I lost 2 tenths going from 373's to 410's!! But lets not jack the thread any further!1fastsn95 said:I shaved 2/10 off and picked up 2mph in the 1/8th with off road hpipe.
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