Mustang II, a Forgotten American Icon

Blue coyote · May 29, 2004

77sleeper said:
the only M1MII I have ever seen in real life is Darryls.

when was the last time you saw a stallion?

There used to be a guy around with a Mach I (haven't seen it for a couple of years...), I've only ever seen one Stallion, and I know where there are at least two KCs locally....

JamesB88 · May 29, 2004

The thing i hate the most is when people cut the front suspension out, the 78 Hatch i got has had it cut out. it was in awsome shape too. I will alwas like these little cars. My dad loves them since he bought the Cobra II brand new.

RED2001GT · Aug 5, 2006

I am looking for a good to fair condition Mustang II in my surrounding area and I am unable to find anything available in the Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Connecticut area.

2muchtime · Aug 5, 2006

check ur pm

Power Surge · Aug 5, 2006

Holy dug up from the dead threads Batman.

74ProII · Aug 8, 2006

Well I have to say I get pretty much tired to all the II bashing. Most people do not appreciate them until they had one. Sure they have quirks, if you choose to modify it from the original design. However as designed, they excelled. Most of the "issues" with our cars is because of personalization, or trying to bring back a car that had been beat to death, neglected or otherwise ignored. While it is true our numbers dwindle daily, the sheer fact so many of our cars surrived, is a tribute to the design. How many other popular cars of the day do you see? I have seen a lone Vega, one Volare in the last few years just for example. What gets me, is that over the last couple of years it seems that you get the all to familiar "oh, it's a II" (you know the tone) from within our ranks because it is not a "cobra". It drives me nuts how you got to have a "cobra" to be recogonized in the II crowd anymore. We all know how insignificant the differences are. So why all the aires? I readily admit I wish they had made "cobra" coupes, they didn't. I made my own version in the mid eighties. I've scrounged the junkyards from day one of II ownership. I freely emblazened "cobra II" on my coupe for decades. Now I almost hate to be associated in that click. Just a poser CBII. I have never lbeen fond of the hatchback without the CBII package. I will forever remain alone, even within my own crowd...sob,sob, sigh Fac e it guys coupe rock!!!!!

pntbllchaos8 · Aug 8, 2006

i for one have a 76 cobra II hatchback and it still has all the original parts, aside from the drivers side fender, the fiberglass front, and the radiator, everything on the car is what came with it, which is amazing because its seen 110k miles, the wrong oil going into it resulting in aquarter inch thick waxy substance everywhere in the block TWO accidents, the first ripping the engine out of the motormounts and shoving it against the firewall. on top of that, allowing it to sit in cold storage for 23 YEARS!!
my parents were gonna go and dump the thing at the wrecking yard and i protested, so now, its my latest project and the end result couldnt be sweeter, its in primer, but within two weeks it will be a nice superblue with white racing stripes. i like the look of the fastback and the smaller, lighter body will perform just like how i want it to, perfection.
i love the look of the II, especially the king cobra variant, in fact i've been hunting down the king cobra air dam and everything, but to no avail, does anyone know where i can find a complete one? or if you have one i'll buy it from you.

regardless, i think that i couldnt agree more that we are a lost generation, and it makes me angry and frustrated that more companies dont carry parts for the little guy.

Mstng2 · Aug 23, 2006

POst some pics of it!! We wanna seeeee @@

1970impala · Aug 25, 2006

innocentfool said:
i agree with you on that. if i happen to see a II on the road it is usually a cobra and rarely the other King in my city. not too many ghias or regulat h/bs. probably cuz the cobras and Kings were deemed the only one that were 'collectible'. personally i would love to some day collect all available body styles.

True, many are clones. As everyone on here is aware, most of us have been fighting the poor reputation of our cars. When i purchased mine three years ago, I was determined to stop this nonsense in my area. i dedicated my car to establishing the reputation we deserve. AND I can say it definitely has worked. My (our) car is not critized any longer... at least around here. 13 trophies and counting. Last saturday i actually didn't have time to eat at the show because of the people talking to me with with either questions or stories of their own having a II. I seem to find that many of the II's were traded in during the late 80's. last saturday I had a guy say that his wife had a brown ghia with a 4 cylinder and he swore it was running on 2 when they traded it in, in 85. HEHE.

Adieu · Aug 30, 2006

It's getting to the point I hate all mustangs made before 1971 and after 1978... because of their owners...

I'd trade either/both of my foxes for another II or two...

itsaMustangtoo · Aug 31, 2006

estevaf said:
I think that II´s will be eventually widely recognized by what it has done for the automotive industry but, much more, for what it has done for the Mustang mith.

I do not understand why people don´t see that without the II´s we would never had the 2005´

This is bull*%#@ Why do II owners always say this???
IF Ford had stopped producing the mustang in 74, do you seriously think they could not, or would not, bring it back?? They did it with the t-bird. There is talk of the bronco ( which the explorer/expidition replaced) Chevy is talking about the camaro, and I think dodge has done it with everything ( charger--ram--hemi--challanger--etc.) So stop trying to kid yourself and tell people to bash the behemoth the 73 had become. It does not even look like a mustang!

Blue coyote · Aug 31, 2006

itsaMustangtoo said:
This is bull*%#@ Why do II owners always say this???
IF Ford had stopped producing the mustang in 74, do you seriously think they could not, or would not, bring it back?? They did it with the t-bird. There is talk of the bronco ( which the explorer/expidition replaced) Chevy is talking about the camaro, and I think dodge has done it with everything ( charger--ram--hemi--challanger--etc.) So stop trying to kid yourself and tell people to bash the behemoth the 73 had become. It does not even look like a mustang!

Without the II to use as a template for the body lines of the '05, the new generation might look more like that '73 you hate so much. Mind you, the early 70's produced the first fastbacks I liked

And personally, I think all the Mustangs from 79-04 look FAR less like Mustangs than the 73 ever did.

itsaMustangtoo · Sep 1, 2006

I do not know what you have been reading but the *** that designed the 05 for Ford ,retro styled fom the 67-68 yr -body style. The 79 model yr and early 80 fox bodies did not look the mustang part, but that platform was,or has been around a long time,they are light and fun to drive,easy to modify( plus they accept a big block easily, unlike the short lived 10 ton thunderbird, fairlane wannabe behemoth you like so much. Where are the c scallops? Admit it, the mustang was born as a small affordable fun pony car,which has come full circle. What is fun-sporty about a 71-73???? The back---- no forget it I'm done-

Penguin · Sep 1, 2006

itsaMustangtoo said:
The 79 model yr and early 80 fox bodies did not look the mustang part, but that platform was,or has been around a long time,they are light and fun to drive,easy to modify( plus they accept a big block easily, unlike the short lived 10 ton thunderbird, fairlane wannabe behemoth you like so much. Where are the c scallops? Admit it, the mustang was born as a small affordable fun pony car,which has come full circle. What is fun-sporty about a 71-73???? The back---- no forget it I'm done

~None of the '79-93 Mustangs look like a Mustang.

~They were a failure and Ford was going to make the Mustang a fwd Probe.

~Big-blocks easily fit into fox-bodies? You mean no modification, like in the '71-73?

~The '71-73 were made larger to accomodate the larger big-block engines.

~Contrary to what you might believe, they were not that much larger than the '69-70 model and not that much heavier.

~You're talking about being "sporty," the '71 Boss 351 was one of the fastest factory stock Mustangs. Is that not "sporty" enough for you?

~Talking about "10 ton thunderbirds", the '05-up Mustang weighs more than the '71-73. The '07 Shelby weighs almost 4k lbs.

~This thread was about an under appreciated segment of the Mustang history. I can appreciate all of the Mustangs, from '65-07, for what they were, and why they were.

~You're ignorant.

timeless2 · Sep 1, 2006

Penguin said:
~None of the '79-93 Mustangs look like a Mustang.

Last I looked, the Fox platform was the longest running (production terms), so I think the benchmark is likely set in favor of that platform. Define "Mustang" if I'm off-base here.

Penguin said:
~They were a failure...

If they were a failure, why did Ford run them (Foxes) from 79 to 93?

Penguin said:
~You're ignorant.

Take it easy, no reason to get personal.

itsaMustangtoo · Sep 1, 2006

Penguin said:
~None of the '79-93 Mustangs look like a Mustang. DEFINE WHAT A MUSTANG IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE??

~They were a failure and Ford was going to make the Mustang a fwd Probe.DID THEY?? DUGH

~Big-blocks easily fit into fox-bodies? You mean no modification, like in the '71-73?YES THEY FIT EASILY-MOTOR MOUNTS/HEADERS/AND AN OIL PAN ARE ALL THAT ARE REQUIRED(EXCEPT MECHANICAL ABILITY) IHAVE DONE IT SO I KNOW FIRST HAND

~The '71-73 were made larger to accomodate the larger big-block engines.351 CLEVELANDS?

~Contrary to what you might believe, they were not that much larger than the '69-70 model and not that much heavier. THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE THE CLASSIC LINES--ABOUT AS APPEALING AS A KLEENEX BOX WITH A BRICK IN IT!

~You're talking about being "sporty," the '71 Boss 351 was one of the fastest factory stock Mustangs. Is that not "sporty" enough for you?FAST-AND SPORTY ARE NOT THE SAME--YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT GET IT

~Talking about "10 ton thunderbirds", the '05-up Mustang weighs more than the '71-73. The '07 Shelby weighs almost 4k lbs. YEAH BUT WITH ALMOST 600 HP TOO BOOT--HOW MUCH DID THE 71 BOSS HAVE? 300-325??

~This thread was about an under appreciated segment of the Mustang history. I can appreciate all of the Mustangs, from '65-07, for what they were, and why they were.

~You're ignorant.yEAH,MAYBE YOU ARE?

THE COBRAMAN · Sep 1, 2006

Here we go again

Blue coyote · Sep 1, 2006

Look at the pics of a II beside an '05...Other than the first and last 6" of the car, the lines are within a degree or two of IDENTICAL.

Fox...LIGHT? I believe it had a few hundred pounds more than the II. Fun to drive? My pair of 81's weren't. Neither is the POS fox-body my wife bought (against my advice...women....)

Sure, its been around a long time. With the vast number of shells they've put on it and sold as "different" models, it became dirt cheap to produce, which means more profit for Ford. Whether it says Mustang, Capri, T-bird, Zephyr, Lincoln, Jag, or whatever on the registration, its still more Fairmont than ANY other Mustang is designed after another model. I've put a Fairmont side by side with a Capri, and inside the fenders they are IDENTICAL...

Yes, the "behemoth" stangs lacked a few of the classic Mustang lines....the Fox lacked ALL of them....

And being able to drop a big-block into a Fairmont makes IT sporty? Keep out of my stash, man....you've had way too much...

timeless2 · Sep 1, 2006

THE COBRAMAN said:
Here we go again

Yeah, you're right.

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