Build Thread My 1986 T-top Build - Lasting Memories

I would pick a PHB over 335 tires every day. PHB and a torque arm... Oh ya.
The voice of reason.:rolleyes:

Or,......

Is it just because you'll never be able to realize the sweetness of paving the road with 28" of rubber?

Admit it, or else...
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Go on with your girly man 275 self,....this place is where those that dare to go wide, can.
 
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Ok, thinking cap time.:thinking:
Let say I want to move the lower shock mount over 2.25 inches to keep the coil overs at a 90 degree angle to the rearend. What's the best way?

I want to keep the co's in the relative stock location, just moved in one more inch than what I previously planned.

Maybe by moving it in that far, I can eliminate the need to mount the coil over onto the panhard bar bracket all together? I need to get the dimensions of the bracket and where the bar goes to see if there would be any interference with the co's.

Throw ideas at me guys.
 
Ok, thinking cap time.:thinking:
Let say I want to move the lower shock mount over 2.25 inches to keep the coil overs at a 90 degree angle to the rearend. What's the best way?

I want to keep the co's in the relative stock location, just moved in one more inch than what I previously planned.

Maybe by moving it in that far, I can eliminate the need to mount the coil over onto the panhard bar bracket all together? I need to get the dimensions of the bracket and where the bar goes to see if there would be any interference with the co's.

Throw ideas at me guys.
** Sigh*

Tip the C/O at an angle. It'll mean that the spring rate will probably have to be stiffened (because the coil isn't directly carrying the weight vertically) but as opposed to moving the entire shock inboard, you'll keep the sprung part of the rear as wide as possible, and that should keep the handling portion of your dilemma in check.

This is just my thoughts. If you called Strange, QA-1, Afco, they all may tell you the polar opposite.

But,...for whatever reason you have a bug to go fat on the tires, understand that with every modification that leans towards radical (and a 335 under a fox body fits that mold) you'll have to make concessions. If that means that a full length exhaust wont fit, or you'll have to rethink your gas tank, or, you'll have to Jerry rig the PH bar, or do away with it altogether, or have to cut up, or lose the rear seat altogether(If you intend to use a rear seat)......I'd consider the end result "Saturday Night Special", and take a step back.

Conversely, If you're willing to smell like you're addicted to carbon monoxide, don't mind having to have the kids sit on a piece of wood where a rear set used to be, have to rely on the stock 4 link for your axle centering, and have to take a turn like miss Daisy's driver,.....Then........ Go wide young man,.....Go wide.

I mean,...It's what I've done. But I still have a full length exhaust. There is wood for a back seat, but it still accomodates the little Japanese kid nicely. I always intended to use the stock 4 link, (but I still can go PH bar/TA at anytime I want.

Moderation.......it allows things like still being able to bore a dart block when a piston fails because you didn't max bore it from the get go.
 
** Sigh*

Tip the C/O at an angle. It'll mean that the spring rate will probably have to be stiffened (because the coil isn't directly carrying the weight vertically) but as opposed to moving the entire shock inboard, you'll keep the sprung part of the rear as wide as possible, and that should keep the handling portion of your dilemma in check.

This is just my thoughts. If you called Strange, QA-1, Afco, they all may tell you the polar opposite.

But,...for whatever reason you have a bug to go fat on the tires, understand that with every modification that leans towards radical (and a 335 under a fox body fits that mold) you'll have to make concessions. If that means that a full length exhaust wont fit, or you'll have to rethink your gas tank, or, you'll have to Jerry rig the PH bar, or do away with it altogether, or have to cut up, or lose the rear seat altogether(If you intend to use a rear seat)......I'd consider the end result "Saturday Night Special", and take a step back.

Conversely, If you're willing to smell like you're addicted to carbon monoxide, don't mind having to have the kids sit on a piece of wood where a rear set used to be, have to rely on the stock 4 link for your axle centering, and have to take a turn like miss Daisy's driver,.....Then........ Go wide young man,.....Go wide.

I mean,...It's what I've done. But I still have a full length exhaust. There is wood for a back seat, but it still accomodates the little Japanese kid nicely. I always intended to use the stock 4 link, (but I still can go PH bar/TA at anytime I want.

Moderation.......it allows things like still being able to bore a dart block when a piston fails because you didn't max bore it from the get go.
Sure Mike, I understand what you're saying. I haven't done anything yet.

But, even with 315's and a MM panhard bar, I would have to modify their bracket since it just places the co in the stock location.

I understand the tilting of the co too, your breath wasn't wasted on me. The panhard bar bracket only allows a tiny bit of deflection to the sides. 3-4 degrees. I believe I would be looking closer to six without modifying it.

I still need to do measuring on this. I really just started giving the panhard bar serious consideration today since I finally got a call back from MM last night.

I'm still not saying I'm going to try to have 335's. It's just getting close to the time that I do the mini tub and I'm giving consideration to what might be possible within the standards I wish to meet.

So no sighing allowed here, I'm just seeing if it's possible for 335's, if it's not, I'll be plenty happy with 315's. But the necessity of modifying the MM panhard bracket for the 315's just got me thinking.
 
I was up. Was on the way to Cecil county drag strip in Maryland for outlaw street car shootout and they called it with the rain coming . Back in bed .


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I was up. Was on the way to Cecil country drag strip in Maryland for outlaw street car shootout and they called it with the rain coming . Back in bed .


Sent from my iPhone using my fingers while my auto correct makes me seem illiterate
Well damn, that's too bad!

Sunshine and seventies for the weekend here.
 
Here's what i got from Craigslist. I love these. My dad had one and I've always wanted one.
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Yes, it's a longbed, but there's a lot of nostalgia there for me.
My truck is a long bed, it comes in handy if you haul bigger stuff.

Looks good from the picture, kind of hard to tell though, huh?
 
Sure Mike, I understand what you're saying. I haven't done anything yet.

But, even with 315's and a MM panhard bar, I would have to modify their bracket since it just places the co in the stock location.

I understand the tilting of the co too, your breath wasn't wasted on me. The panhard bar bracket only allows a tiny bit of deflection to the sides. 3-4 degrees. I believe I would be looking closer to six without modifying it.

I still need to do measuring on this. I really just started giving the panhard bar serious consideration today since I finally got a call back from MM last night.

I'm still not saying I'm going to try to have 335's. It's just getting close to the time that I do the mini tub and I'm giving consideration to what might be possible within the standards I wish to meet.

So no sighing allowed here, I'm just seeing if it's possible for 335's, if it's not, I'll be plenty happy with 315's. But the necessity of modifying the MM panhard bracket for the 315's just got me thinking.
The "sigh" was sarcasm, not frustration.

Similar to my never ending bounce between colors, Noobz got to the point where he wouldn't even comment anymore because he knew I was just taking up bandwidth on a conversation that would eventually come right back around to where it started. I always planned to paint that car Competition orange, yet every few months,............I'd post a color choice thread with a new color as the potential go-to,and that went something like....

** Sigh** Here we go again.

So,...because I see similarity in thought processes here, I apply similar logic.

Anything is possible. Especially when you consider rear tires. Since you have went through different build threads where others have shown the pathway to big tires and the concessions you'll have to make,(can't remember the guys name that had the beautiful car with the monster tires that you've been looking through) you kinda know what you're gonna have to live with. The tires for the Monster were the very first purchase I made when the monster build started. There wasn't even a monster yet. I didn't even have a potential car picked out, much less purchased. Even after there was, the plans changed radically from the very first posted version. Had I known that I was gonna use a turbo'd 6 banger,(one exhaust pipe to route) and not have a back seat, (All kinds of room for stupid chassis mods) There'd be some Gi-Honkin 18"x 12 wheel back there sporting some serious rubber.

To think I coulda made some side money helping ALDOT with some of the road work, paving the highways here in the fine state of Alabama,............**Sigh**;)
 
Well, there you go Mike! I used my ***sighs**** appropriately.

I really get your wit mike, it's why I think you're alright. Once I realized you were sarcastic and not just grouchy (though you may have a little of that in you as well), I realized you could think through a smart*ssed reply without being terribly offended and could come back with something sharp. I was laughing a bit through your reply.

It's hard to get the full intent across in a forum of your intentions, so some thoughts (while well thought through in your head) may come across as foolishness. Those things are more likely the fringe details that need to be polished smooth.

I'm not constantly thinking of stuffing 335's underneath Doby. Some of this is just for more clearance for 315's. Now if some freak mind explosion works out to throw 335's under there, you bet I'll do it.

I was thinking about closer to a two inch tubbing simply for the added room for the variances in tire sizes, with the 315's to be sure you understand. Though, reasonably it will probably only stretch out to 1.5-1.75"s.

Watch me in the end though, it'll be 315's. I'm not even slightly disappointed by this.

So, easy there mister, you obviously need more alcohol intake in your diet. Lord knows I do!:cheers:

BTW, a pearl blue would look nice on the monster.
 
Well, there you go Mike! I used my ***sighs**** appropriately.

I really get your wit mike, it's why I think you're alright. Once I realized you were sarcastic and not just grouchy (though you may have a little of that in you as well), I realized you could think through a smart*ssed reply without being terribly offended and could come back with something sharp. I was laughing a bit through your reply.

It's hard to get the full intent across in a forum of your intentions, so some thoughts (while well thought through in your head) may come across as foolishness. Those things are more likely the fringe details that need to be polished smooth.

I'm not constantly thinking of stuffing 335's underneath Doby. Some of this is just for more clearance for 315's. Now if some freak mind explosion works out to throw 335's under there, you bet I'll do it.

I was thinking about closer to a two inch tubbing simply for the added room for the variances in tire sizes, with the 315's to be sure you understand. Though, reasonably it will probably only stretch out to 1.5-1.75"s.

Watch me in the end though, it'll be 315's. I'm not even slightly disappointed by this.

So, easy there mister, you obviously need more alcohol intake in your diet. Lord knows I do!:cheers:

BTW, a pearl blue would look nice on the monster.

Rest assured, the monster gets his color from the slow assed lizard he also takes his name from, and unless it's been dead and very cold for a long time, I just can't imagine blue anywhere on a G monster. Matter of fact, If I could figure out how to tie in some of the reticulated, beaded, black banding on the little bastard that would look right, the 4 wheeled version would sport some of it.

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Here,.....Come over here and I'll bite the hell out of you!

I mean look at him.......Just how "un-scary" could you possibly be when you're slow, low and lazy?
Looks like he just finds the biggest thing that'll fit in his mouth, and it just goes straight in,...no chewing involved. Perfect for swallowing eggs...whole.

They look like they'd make perfect swimming pool torpedoes,......except the part that they're venemous.
 
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