need a cam that will YANK!!!

Mr. Rustypwnz · Dec 22, 2007

ok im wanting a pretty big cam that will pull hard to 6k and still have decent street manners, im going to have 4.10's so this isnt that big of an issue.. BUT!! Im having a hard time deciding on a cam here, the combo is a ported/poilshed gtp combo with springs, a typhoon intake, and all the bolt ons..

so does anybody have a good recomendation for a nice cam that will drive decent, and still pull hard to 6k?

I really dont care about the price unless its more than $300....

thanks josh

PUNISHER RACING · Dec 22, 2007

X cam

Mr. Rustypwnz · Dec 22, 2007

this is on the stock bottom end btw...

thanks!!

edit: come to think of it that might do the trick!! that cam sounds soo badass its not funny....
I guess I can sacrifice some mpg for mph lol...

85_SS_302_Coupe · Dec 22, 2007

I'll be running an X as well. It's old school and there's way better out there but i got it for cheap and it does get the job done. Something duel pattern would be better, like a Stage 1. The X is gonna scream on the top end but is gonna give up some on the bottom end vs. the Stage 1.

LS-what? · Dec 23, 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-TYpmsOebk

PUNISHER RACING · Dec 23, 2007

Thats why I put the 4.30's in !!!!!! All you do is pull gears and try to beat the rev-limiter, I f-in love it

ttop88 · Dec 23, 2007

Anderson N-21. Sorry, im not a fan of the alphabet cams.

fiveohwblow · Dec 23, 2007

Had Ed Curtis grind me one, love it. Was over 300 but imho you cant beat custom... Not sure its necessary at your power level yet but I dont think I'll go elsewhere

85_SS_302_Coupe · Dec 23, 2007

fiveohwblow said:
Had Ed Curtis grind me one, love it. Was over 300 but imho you cant beat custom... Not sure its necessary at your power level yet but I dont think I'll go elsewhere

I used to think that way until my buddy got one of his cams and it made less power than his old X did. Now i'm not so sure.

fiveohwblow · Dec 23, 2007

85_SS_302_Coupe said:
I used to think that way until my buddy got one of his cams and it made less power than his old X did. Now i'm not so sure.

Oh.... Is that his peak numbers, or did he analyze the entire curve?

BK_CAULEY · Dec 23, 2007

LS-what? said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-TYpmsOebk

ive never seen so many mustangs in one place. just look all over that parking lot. there everywhere

Mr. Rustypwnz · Dec 23, 2007

that used to look like my driveway, when you came over with raymond, or alvin would come over with 4 other cars lol...

I think im gonna hit up the x cam... ill try that and see how that works out......

85_SS_302_Coupe · Dec 23, 2007

fiveohwblow said:
Oh.... Is that his peak numbers, or did he analyze the entire curve?

Well don't get me wrong, i would swear by custom cams for getting the most out of a combo, but for some reason it made a crap load less torque and only 15hp more than the X303 did, and it's a duel pattern 580ish lift on the intake and 620ish on the exhaust. The guys running the dyno said that Ed's cams are notorious for making great peak HP numbers but being soft on the torque side.

BK_CAULEY · Dec 23, 2007

fiveohwblow · Dec 23, 2007

85_SS_302_Coupe said:
Well don't get me wrong, i would swear by custom cams for getting the most out of a combo, but for some reason it made a crap load less torque and only 15hp more than the X303 did, and it's a duel pattern 580ish lift on the intake and 620ish on the exhaust. The guys running the dyno said that Ed's cams are notorious for making great peak HP numbers but being soft on the torque side.

That makes me the inverse of happy... now I might have to check it out...

I was pretty steadfast about Ed's abilities even after my former tuner also told me he would rather see me go with a trick flow cam... great...

Aliate X · Dec 23, 2007

picking a cam based on how badass it is FOR THE LOOSE.

get yourself a custom.

5spd GT · Dec 23, 2007

85_SS_302_Coupe said:
Well don't get me wrong, i would swear by custom cams for getting the most out of a combo, but for some reason it made a crap load less torque and only 15hp more than the X303 did, and it's a duel pattern 580ish lift on the intake and 620ish on the exhaust. The guys running the dyno said that Ed's cams are notorious for making great peak HP numbers but being soft on the torque side.

That is funny They are likely trying to make a sale of their own camshaft. I often wonder how many "Ed" cam's he has even dyno'ed in order to make such a comparison

You have to look at the goals given to the guy who is spec'ing the camshaft. The cam can only be as good as the buyer gave information.

The average hp/tq is where it is at in the powerband. Just as well, the custom cam

To the original poster, the answer is easy.

For $325, go with a custom cam from www.flowtechinduction.com.

That is $25 more than you wanted to spend, but you get more average performance, better driveability, better vacuum.

In many street cases, the higher lift helps driveability. It really is not a determiner of how "big" the camshaft is.

Even with my 110% daily driver cam (that is what I told Ed), AFR 165's and a regular Performer intake, I routinely was beating cars with lots of weight reduction, slicks, etc. I got blamed for running a stroker lots of time on the streets.

One even said, "where is the nitrous switch?"

5spd GT · Dec 23, 2007

fiveohwblow said:
That makes me the inverse of happy... now I might have to check it out...

I was pretty steadfast about Ed's abilities even after my former tuner also told me he would rather see me go with a trick flow cam... great...

Your tuner probably does not know who he is.

I have two guesses why he said what he did:

1. You were going to get the cam through him.
2. That is all he is familiar with.

Trickflow cam's are great for a budget, but they cannot compare to a custom, except in price.

Any good custom cam grinder is going to overshadow a trickflow.

85_SS_302_Coupe · Dec 23, 2007

Well, i don't wanna name a bunch of names, and let me make it totally clear that i'm not bashing Ed in any way shape or form, i'm only going by this particular case and who knows why it is how it is. Also let me assure you, the guys who tuned the engine are top notch, easily among the best in our tristate area so they know their stuff and with the popularity of Eds cams, i'm sure they've done at least a few of their cams to know.

As for the goals of the engine, it's a 347 with Edelbrock Victor Jr heads and a Systemax intake and all the associated goodies to make it all work right. Lets just say the numbers were disappointing. When the cam was ordered it was to be for a STREET performance setup. Now, for whatever reason this combo made less torque and only 15hp more than his last 347 made with GT40P heads and a Typhoon intake with the afore mentioned X303 cam. It totally baffled all of us, including the guys tuning the engine. Right now my buddy is pretty much back to the drawing board and searching for some kind of phantom problem as to why it made such low numbers.

5spd GT · Dec 23, 2007

Have him contact Ed Curtis, and see what he says.

I hope he had the custom cam ground for the parts that he had on the 347 at the time of the dyno.

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