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need help.... 04 gt with my novi 1k and a horrible dyno

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hotmustang331

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Yea without a pulley there is NO WAY you will get 465RWHP out of a terminator. I dont care if you throw in 25*s of timing on race gas...no way, no how....even if you had every other bolton out there.

Those guys are loosers...I would never EVER go back.

Hey your car still runs correct right? Want to make sure they didnt jack up your car.
 

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Feel free to post up the name of this place, It might already have a reputation, Your story is starting it off pretty strong in the direction
 

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they are BS the numbers to make money, my buddys 03 cobra with 14psi pulley, intake, cat back, and tune put down 440rwhp......
 

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98COBRA281 said:
they are BS the numbers to make money, my buddys 03 cobra with 14psi pulley, intake, cat back, and tune put down 440rwhp......
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that seems low too, 465 +/- sounds closer to home there, Maybe it's hurting on the stock midpipe
 

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They are telling you low numbers so they can get some money off of you. Prob if you buy there "Tune" they will then tell you your real numbers and be like "Yep our tune got you 85rwhp" lol which is a joke.

RUN AWAY find a good shop and never go back
 

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tag4car said:
that seems low too, 465 +/- sounds closer to home there, Maybe it's hurting on the stock midpipe
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yeah it has the stock midpipe, it was like 85 degree heat, and 95% humidity tho....
 

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98COBRA281 said:
yeah it has the stock midpipe, it was like 85 degree heat, and 95% humidity tho....
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Ahh, yeah that probably didn't help to much. that and heatsoak from the other runs
 

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I have a car that always dynos low. Though this shop may be dicking you over it could be the car just doesn't lay the numbers down. A dyno is tool for tuning and it doesn't matter if the car puts down 30rwhp or 3000rwhp all that matters is what you run at the track. That tells you what you car can do.
 
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mustangman9812 said:
They are telling you low numbers so they can get some money off of you. Prob if you buy there "Tune" they will then tell you your real numbers and be like "Yep our tune got you 85rwhp" lol which is a joke.

RUN AWAY find a good shop and never go back
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That's right, and I wasn't expecting higher numbers anyways but when I asked the tuner,to tell me base on his experience what could b going on with the car he seems like 285 was normal for a mustang with blower...I said hey paxton said at least a 330whp at 6psi with just the blower and a paxton mail in tune,so why the guy that owned my car before got 42lbs injectors,a boost a pump and a fuel pump if he dynoed like that..and base on research I did with diablo my chip the delta revolution black color can only be tuned at a performance shop on the dyno, i. Been trying to find out who owned the car before but my dealer said its been too long and they don't have the info...so I'm outta luck....but mann its depressive none the less, to see your car dynoed like that with a blower and feeling like its pulling like a champ...

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tag4car said:
Feel free to post up the name of this place, It might already have a reputation, Your story is starting it off pretty strong in the direction
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Ohh yeahh I will post the shop name ,address and phone number so people can be aware of it...but I want to make sure with another dyno first..just in case there's something wrong with the engine ,and I give the shop a bad rep. To my knowledge there's no engine knock.the car pulls hard through the rpms..engine sounds smooth at idle and healthy at full throttle,blower spools when boosting,always use syntetic oil,and 93octane,I only open her up when necessary..has a rev limiter at 62k..hit it only twice

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Where you located?

I had a shop do the same thing to me
 
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Where you located?

I had a shop do the same thing to me
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seattle,wa..so what they did to you?

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No i live in Western North Carolina, was just wondering a shop did do the same thing to me though. I laughed in there face and drove off.
 
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No i live in Western North Carolina, was just wondering a shop did do the same thing to me though. I laughed in there face and drove off.
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so a shop play with your dyno numbers?....what hp they told you


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my Novi 1200 with full bolt ons made 360/360 at 5-6#s of boost... (Haven't dyno'd it here at sea level yet where it's making 8-9#s now)

Go to another shop as has been suggested.


Good luck

Oh and you don't want to be using a full Synthetic oil with forced induction.
 

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Oh and you don't want to be using a full Synthetic oil with forced induction.
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Why not?
 

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Why not?
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With thinner oil blow by issues become more predominant. Dual blend, or straight oil is best to keep the ammount of oil that bypasses the PCV to a minimum.
 

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myponyrocks said:
my Novi 1200 with full bolt ons made 360/360 at 5-6#s of boost... (Haven't dyno'd it here at sea level yet where it's making 8-9#s now)

Go to another shop as has been suggested.


Good luck

Oh and you don't want to be using a full Synthetic oil with forced induction.
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Man those are good #s for 5PSI!
 

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Man those are good #s for 5PSI!
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damn sure is!
 

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myponyrocks said:
With thinner oil blow by issues become more predominant. Dual blend, or straight oil is best to keep the ammount of oil that bypasses the PCV to a minimum.
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a full synth is no thinner than a standard oil of the same weight/viscosity

on a car that sees much higher cylinder pressures than a NA car would see I would run nothing but full synth..

You can go to a thicker oil instead of the 5/20 that these cars normally use..
 
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