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Need help installing ignition toggle switch

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str8stang036

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I just made my own switch panel for my stang and I am stuck when it comes to wiring up the ignition toggle switch. The idea is to bypass the key completely and us the toggle as the "key" shall we say.

How should I wire this up to make it work that way?
 

95BlueStallion

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You will still need your key for the wheel lock, wont you? I thought about doing the same thing, but never got around to it. Just put in a start button alone....
 

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that might be the exception to use the key, but I may not even need it. I have a separate toggle for the starter, but I need to figure out the ignition wiring
 

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Would this be like a pure race-car thing or are you doing this in your street car?

If the latter, it's going to kind of suck because you'll need a few switches (accessory, crank and run). In addition, I dont like the idea because if a connection or switch goes bad, you stall in traffic (or while making a left turn!). On a track car, you don't have to worry about runaway SUV's coming at you.
 

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its basically drag only. What wires go to what from the ignition switch?
 

HISSIN50

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I'll just post a diagram so you can see the enchillada yourself. This is courtesy of bmac50


 

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thanks hissin
 

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Here is an option:

Take a look at the fuel pump inertia switch, located on the driver's side rear in the trunk. make a note of the wire colors at this connector. one wire is brown, the other wire is green with a yellow stripe. you will be splicing into this green/yellow wire as it snakes through the passenger compartment.
Pop off the plastic trim along the bottom of the door opening, on the driver's side. the wiring harness runs underneath the carpet. pull up the harness and tear off the plastic wrap to expose the wires.
Now, look for the fuel pump wire (green with yellow stripe). MAKE SURE YOU FIND THE RIGHT ONE! there is another wire that looks similar (olive green w/yellow stripe). you don't want that one.
For safety, you can verify the right wire with a meter. here's how:
Stick a safety pin in the green/yellow wire that you found in step
The pin must be deep enough to pass through the insulation.
Connect a piece of wire to the pin, long enough to reach the trunk.
Go to the trunk, and remove the inertia switch connector.
Set your meter to read RESISTANCE (ohms). connect one lead to the inertia switch connector's green/yellow wire.
Connect other meter lead to the wire that you connected to the safety pin.
If the meter reads 0 ohms every time you connect the safety pin wire to the meter lead, then you got the right wire. if the meter reads anything other than 0 ohms, you have the WRONG lead.
Once you've found the correct green/yellow wire, it's just a matter of splicing in a switch to connect/disconnect. for safety reasons (or if you want to use a tiny hidden switch), you may want to use a relay, which is what I did. I used a 30A 12VDC SPST relay (it's much bigger than needed, but that's ok). to use a relay, follow this:
Cut the green/yellow wire
Wire both ends of the green/yellow wire to the 12V in and 12V out leads on the relay (it doesn't matter which lead goes where, as long as it's the 12V in/out connectors).
Connect about a 5ft piece of wire (2 leads, like speaker wire) to the coil side of the relay, noting which wire is connected to the relay's ground side.
Snake this wire to your chosen hidden spot for the switch (I chose a small hidden spot near my ashtray).
Connect the ground wire to a nearby bolt, making sure the bolt contacts the car body
Connect the other wire to one connector on your switch.
Connect the other switch connector with a piece of wire, and route that wire to a 12V ignition source (any wire that produces 12V when the key is in the ON position will work (use the meter to verify).
ALL DONE!
When the switch is opened, the car will try to start, but won't run. flick the switch on, and you're off and running. email me if you have questions. these instructions should work on the '94-'95 mustangs (and maybe newer ones). now, this isn't the only way to do this. some people like to splice the wire at the inertia switch at the trunk, and the route the wires into the passenger compartment. while this would work too, the disadvantage is that a SMART thief will look there FIRST! if a thief finds the relay (or the splice), it's a simple matter of running a jumper wire to bypass all your hard work. using my way, the relay is hidden underneath the carpet by the driver's seat, making it very hard for the thief to find it. of course, he can run a jumper from the battery to the inertia switch in the trunk, but he'd have a wire whipping around while driving your car
 

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Race only: just throwin this out there and you'd have to wire a switch to flip as the KEY ON position but would pullin the key cylinder pass the need for a key and the wheel lock?

and i wired a push button start for the heck of it - i still put the key in and turn to on position (if you wired that portion to toggle and removed key cylinder* you'd just flip you toggle on) then push the button and she cranks.
*assuming removing cylinder unlocks steerin wheel lock*
- I did it cause i was bored and wanted to bypass having to push in the clutch when starting ...for future when i add my remote start

BUT i did it ALL ALOT MORE SIMPLY than what R.J. said wiring from trunk and all. (no offense R.j. just thrown out other options)

I grabbed my needed wires up in driver footwell where the switch 'monitors' clutch position.
I'll look at wire colors and specs and post tom if you'd like
 

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thanks for the opinions guys. I already completed the toggles last week. I did some research about the wires in the ignition switch and went from there. Great so far!
 
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Just adding some info to this thread, yes, I know it's from 2008, but hopefully it'll help a few folk out.

Here are where each pin goes to on a 1994 Mustang GT:

GND --> P1,P2 (During start only)
B1 --> A1 (ACC/RUN but not during start),I2 (During start only)
B2 --> A2 (ACC/RUN but not during start)
B3 --> A3 (ACC/RUN but not during start)
B4 --> A4 (ACC/RUN but not during start), STA (During start only)
B5 --> I1 (ACC/RUN/start)
 

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The thread is not that old, it just takes a long time to get from here to the other side of the big lake.
Good to hear from New Zealand, where automobiles wear boots, mud guards and guys build crazy stuff and think it normal.
Still got that white sn95?
 
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Yes indeed, we're making a few changes this winter (new cage, gearbox rebuild, rear gears, ECU and a re-wire) so it's currently torn down - I'm using my steering column for a foot rest at the moment, the class I'm moving to requires the steering lock be disabled so while it's out I ran the meter over the ignition switch pins
 

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Ok I'm a boob and not entirely up on your lingo so please explain: steering lock part your disabling, you mean your grinding off the pin that engages the slotted wheel under the steering wheel?
Whats the class called?
There is a thread that a guy, Mike, is taming a Austrian crossflo headed 250 I6 with a hair dryer and efi on it. Likely tame by your standards but it it a very entertaining read.
Start a thread of your own and fill us in on your ride and of course we need pics. Beer pics too!
 
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