need help with cam removal

[russ1979]

the eng. is out of the car and on a stand. the water pump and just about everything
is off. i've takin off all the timing cover blots. but it seems like it's still being held on
by the crank pulley (the only pulley left) and dampener. every time i i try to take the bolts off it just spins the crank.
--do i need a specal tool or are there any tricks i can use?
any help would be great

 

[PUNISHER RACING]

the dampner has to be removed first, you can use an air gun or a ratchet and hit the ratchet handle with a hammer to impact it off. You will also need a dampner puller unless you are blessed with a dampner Ford didn't beat on. You can then remove your cover, timing chain, cam plate bolts and slide your cam out providing you removed the lifters first.

 

[mike93lx]

i pulled a cam without removing the dampener. been a while since I did it, but it didn't require any special tools

 

[5spd GT]

I cannot see how you can pull the cam without removing the harmonic balancer (dampner).

If you have a 5spd, put the car in 5th gear and pull the e-brake. Get a break-over bar and start cranking on it counterclockwise. If an AOD, put it in park/e-brake and see if that works.

 

[Darkwriter77]

I cannot see how you can pull the cam without removing the harmonic balancer (dampner).

If you have a 5spd, put the car in 5th gear and pull the e-brake. Get a break-over bar and start cranking on it counterclockwise. If an AOD, put it in park/e-brake and see if that works.

He'd have to re-install the motor for that method to work. As stated, his motor's already pulled out and on a stand.

Only way I can see a cam being pulled without pulling the balancer is if you removed the oil pan, unbolted the timing cover, and then somehow rotated the cover around on the crank ... but even then, I don't see it happening. And even if you could ... God, WHY go through that much of a hassle to avoid spending a few minutes to pull the balancer? I mean, the balancer isn't THAT hard to remove - one big bolt in the center, thread in two bolts for the puller tool, and start crankin' on the center shaft/bolt it until it falls off.

 

[jake2582]

i pulled a cam without removing the dampener. been a while since I did it, but it didn't require any special tools

not out of a SBF! not without breaking anything I CALL FUQING BS!:Zip2:
yeah maybe ya removed it outa the box!
i can remove it too just have to bust the timing cover.
i removed a crankshaft withing taking any rod bolts off too!
CUT EM ALL WITH A TORCH LOL

 

[ShortThrow50]

the eng. is out of the car and on a stand. the water pump and just about everything
is off. i've takin off all the timing cover blots. but it seems like it's still being held on
by the crank pulley (the only pulley left) and dampener. every time i i try to take the bolts off it just spins the crank.
--do i need a specal tool or are there any tricks i can use?
any help would be great

hey bro, you need to at least buy a tech manual before you go ANY further. Im not tryin to be a smart ass but there is much for you to learn yet after asking this question. Again, Im not tryin to be a joker but this is one of the easiest parts to engine building. I learned a lot reading through the chiltons. Reason I say this is because your gonna have a million step by step questions

 

[russ1979]

i used a large socket, a cheater bar and all my body weight to get the big bolt off.
i then rented the puller from autozone it' took me a little time to figure it out
(the autozone kid had no idea how it worked) but i got it off
thanks guys

 

[PUNISHER RACING]

No problem we all have to learn somehow its not rocket science its just nuts and bolts, trust me I do it for a livin'. Good Luck

 

[5spd GT]

He'd have to re-install the motor for that method to work. As stated, his motor's already pulled out and on a stand.

Only way I can see a cam being pulled without pulling the balancer is if you removed the oil pan, unbolted the timing cover, and then somehow rotated the cover around on the crank ... but even then, I don't see it happening. And even if you could ... God, WHY go through that much of a hassle to avoid spending a few minutes to pull the balancer? I mean, the balancer isn't THAT hard to remove - one big bolt in the center, thread in two bolts for the puller tool, and start crankin' on the center shaft/bolt it until it falls off.

Thanks for the correction because I skipped over that part. My mistake.

I cannot see the timing cover being rotated, for two reasons:

1) The left timing cover dowel pin.
2) The right timing cover dowel pin.

 

[Roland69]

Impact works wonders

 

[russ1979]

short: i don't plain on rebuilding the shortblock. i will prob just throw on a diff. set of
h/c/i and if i do rebuild the short block i'll have a shop do that.

 

[BlownFiveLiter]

Pull the balancer. You can't remove the timing cover without it being off, and you should replace the timing chain while you're in there anyway. I'm sure there's gotta be an Autozone in, or near Albuquerque? They loan tools for free, you just need to leave a deposit, which is refunded in full when you return them.