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Need pics of H&R super sports

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whyask

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Getting mine installed in 2 weeks and just wanted to get a refernce of how low it would be ! Thanks guys/gals !
 

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No one has these yet..???
 

highvolts

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I've been thinking about H&R Sports. Not sure I want the drop the Super Sports give. Had SS's on my 2003 and it was almost too low.

Can't wait to see some pics!
 

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Feb 8th
Is the install date Im bringing my camera with me this time. were doing a dyno run after for a baseline test. before all the mods start going on, Since then ive gotten the CDC chin spoiler, black out panel in the rear, HIDS, clear side markers and some billet interior trim pieces... Waiting for the warranty to go BYE BYE and then the wipple goes on. THANKS YOU for the tax returns ! But ya everyone is kinda hesitant about getting them cause they say it will be TOO low.. so since i got them for 120 bucks new and the install is costing me a case of SAM ADAMS and some computer help, why not !
 

highvolts

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Cool Man! I did my SS's on my 03 in about 3 hours in my garage..
 

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Sweet ya he said all bull*****'n aside it should take about 2 1/2 hours if we both tackel a side ! I still have the stocker rims on there on now, so its gonna sit LOW with the 275/50/17
 
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going that low might give you alignment problems. have you left money in the budget for that.
 

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hahahaha (woops) Ive got a bunch of BMR parts, Upper & lower, gas shocks, front brace, rear brace, subframes, HOPEFULLY that helps a little ! I dont know anyone thats gone this low with ther S197 so I guess im the "test subject"... And I still have my stockers on..(wich is gonna make it sooo mcuh lower!) I wont have my tires for another month so hopefully 19x10's in the rear wont rub with 295/35/19 when I put them on.. I was going to go with 18's but my "ideas" with the car have changed so Im opting for 19x10's in the rear and 19x9 in the front with 275. One more week and there on FEB8th !
 

kooldawg6

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I have 295/45-18s on 18x10s in the rear with 1.5" drop and they aren't even close to rubbing. It looks pretty damn sweet


As far as alignment goes, I would imagine you're going to need caster camber plates to get rid of the negative camber. I installed the Steeda plates and they allow for +/-1 degree camber. I didn't get it aligned yet but we pushed the struts out a bit untill the tires looked even by eye. Driving it down the road it tracks very well so it is close. You may need an adjustable panhard bar if your rear gets pushed to one side. It is very easy to replace. A few bolts and done. I will be measuring mine today to see if mine needs one. Here is the bigcat's writeup for the install of an adjustable and description of how to measure/adjust. http://www.stangnet.com/Tech-Articles/S197-Panhard-Bar-Install-061230.html
 

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whyask

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Thanks Kool, are camber plates pretty easy to install, cause if they are, while we are doing the springs we are doing all the other suspension mods might as well knock that one out as well! And who is a good but NOT $$$$$$ place to buy from ?
 

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the camber plates replace the upper strut mounts, so you will need to do them when you install the springs, or do the job twice. i only know of two plates on the market. the J&M camber plate and the maximum motorsports caster & camber plates. the MM plates are much more expensive.
 

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is there any performance differnce between the two..? Im new to the whole suspension world !
 

bigcat

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one allows you to adjust caster as well. depending on what you want to do with the car will decide. if you drop the car a significant amount, caster may need to be adjusted as well after lowering. the only other way to adjust caster on these cars is to shim the lower control arm. most dont need to adjust caster though. for racing applications, caster adjustment could be beneficial.
 

kooldawg6

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Dang bigcat...if I'd checked on the J&M I probably would've gotten those. I saw AmericanMuscle has them for $230, $70 less than Steeda. At least it's a name I trust. They appear to be exact in design as well except for the J&M's having .8 more degrees of adjustability.
I measured the wheels this afternoon and I do need an adjustable panhard bar.

Here are the pics.
Passenger side


Driver side


Also measured my front clearance-5.5"
 

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whyask

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OMG that panhard bar install looks SOOOO freaking easy thanks for the write up...
 

kooldawg6

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Yes I know, just a few bolts and done. Just ordered a Steeda adjustable and will be on this weekend. Wish I would've known last week Oh well, easy 10-15 minute job
 

kooldawg6

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As far as installing new camber/upper strut mounts, it is nothing to it as the factory ones have to be removed while doing the springs anyway.
Strut assembly out, compress spring, remove nut, remove factory strut mount, remove factory spring, replace with new spring, replace with new camber/strut mount, replace nut, let spring uncompress and replace back in the car. It literally is that easy!
 

bigcat

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whyask said:
OMG that panhard bar install looks SOOOO freaking easy thanks for the write up...
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to tell you the truth, the entire suspension on this car is very easy compared to some vehicles. ford did very well when designing parts for serviceability. have you looked at your power steering rack? its one of the easiest i have ever seen. thanks ford!
 

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Yup first thing I looked at..Only cause in my 04 a week after I bought it mine snapped went with a flamming river... Do they have them for our years yet ..??
 
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