new here an hope you guys can help

is the motor turning slow like it has a dead battery or is it turning fine. you may have adjusted the timing too much and it is now fighting itself to start meaning that it is igniting the mixture too soon while the valves are still closed.

Put the timing back one deree at a time til it fires and see what happens...

I think you have the timing off a bit..

Cranks Ok but no start for carb’d cars.
Revised 31-Jul-2006
Carb'd cars require an old time approach to troubleshooting.

1.) Remove push on connector from starter solenoid and turn ignition switch on. Place car in neutral or Park. Remove coil wire from distributor & and hold 3/8” away from engine block. Jumper the screw with the red wire to the big bolt on the starter solenoid that has the battery wire connected to it. You should get a nice fat blue spark.
Most of the items are electrical in nature, so a test light, or even better, a voltmeter, is helpful to be sure they have power to them.
No spark, possible failed items in order of their probability:
A.) Coil
B. ) Distributor PIP sensor or points & condenser
C.) No power to ignition system wiring or ignition box (if used)
D.) Bad ignition switch
E.) Bad fuse links.
AutoZone wiring diagrams

http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBr...3d8016713c.jsp for 79-88 model Mustangs

http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBr...3d8019595a.jsp for 89-93 model Mustangs

http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBr...3d801ddb3c.jsp for 94-98 model Mustangs


2.) Spark at coil wire, pull #1 plug wire off at the spark plug and check to see spark. No spark, possible failed items in order of their probability:
A.) Moisture inside distributor – remove cap, dry off & spray with WD40
B.) Distributor cap
C.) Rotor
D.) Spark Plug wires
E.) Coil weak or intermittent - you should see 3/8" fat blue spark with a good coil

3.) Spark at spark plug, but no start.
4.) Pull the air cleaner and sniff for fuel vapor - look for signs of flooding. If so, then press the accelerator to the floor and crank for a while – if the engine is flooded, this will clear it out. You may want to have a jumper battery & cables handy.
5.) Electric fuel pump if you have one, is it getting power? Use a volt meter or test light to probe the wires at the pump.

Don't see any evidence of flooding? Then pump the throttle - does the accelerator pump squirt fuel? If so then you should have enough fuel to start the engine. If not look for fuel delivery problems. Check the fuel pump, and fuel filter. Remember that most carbs have a fuel inlet filter that protects the float needle valve from trash.

Next, get a can of starting fluid (ether) from your local auto parts store: costs a $1.30 or so. Then pull the air duct off at the throttle body elbow, open the throttle, and spray the ether in it. Reconnect the air duct and try to start the car. Do not try to start the car without reconnecting the air duct. If it backfires, the chance for a serious fire is increased. If the engine starts now, you have a fuel delivery problem.

6.) Fuel & ignition OK:
Firing order off: HO & 351 use a different firing order from the non HO engines.
HO & 351W 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
Non HO 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8
Check to verify that it is indeed an HO engine. Remove the #1 & #3 spark plugs. Put your finger in #1 spark plug hole. Crank the engine over until you feel compression on #1 cylinder. Slowly turn the engine until the TDC mark and the timing pointer line up. Mark TDC on the balancer with chalk or paint. Put your finger in #3 spark plug hole and crank the engine 90 degrees. You should feel pressure trying to blow past your finger. If you do not feel pressure, repeat the process again. If you feel pressure, it is a HO engine.

No pressure the second time, remove spark plug #5. Put your finger in #1 spark plug hole. Crank the engine over until you feel compression on #1 cylinder. Put your finger in #5 spark plug hole and crank the engine 90 degrees. If you feel pressure now, the engine is not a HO model, no matter what it says on the engine.

Using a small carpenter or machinist square to mark the harmonic balancer off into 90 degree sections may be helpful here.

A 15/16 deep socket & breaker bar or ratchet may be used to turn the engine.

if it's jumping back like you say, it's out of time. it's gotta be. check with a timing light.

i think its a piece and you should sell it.

dastang2 said:

if it's jumping back like you say, it's out of time. it's gotta be. check with a timing light.

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its out of time.. losen the distributor hold down.. and slowly turn it backwards and have someone try to start it..

and while your at it.. grab the coil.. lmao