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Newbie with a 5.0

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ProjectMucilage

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Hello all! I just bought an `88 5.0 GT. I was looking for a beater, to allow me not to have to use my regular car (`01 Z28) when I have to be somewhere for work, when my dad told me about a Mustang I could pick up for $700. Didn' t know much at the time, except it had a V8 and a cowl hood. I was also told that it did not run, and had been sitting for about 5 years. A few days later a deal was struck and the car was bought for $500. This past Saturday, my dad and uncle picked it up for me, and we' ll start trouble shooting to find out why it doesn' t run this week. It has a few dents, needs a front bumper, all new lighting, and a coat of paint, and it will make a damn nice driver for $500! Here' s what it looked like Sunday morning:







Well, there' s my background. I' ll be looking around, and researching as time progresses. I' m sure I' ll find plenty of information here. I do have one question though. Doesn' t anyone sell original GT taillights for restoration? I can' t find any new ones anywhere!
 

Darkwriter77

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If I could find a 5.0 in my area for that cheap, The Chubby would be gone, like, NOW. I'd much rather have a hatchback Fox than a damned GM SUV.

Lucky find.
 

Turkey Sammich

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Darkwriter77 said:
If I could find a 5.0 in my area for that cheap, The Chubby would be gone, like, NOW. I'd much rather have a hatchback Fox than a damned GM SUV.

Lucky find.
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I'll sell you my hatch.












Then, I can use it for a down payment on a 03/04 Cobra.
 

timeless2

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Thread cleaned up and moved to 5.0 Talk.

Enjoy the project--you've certainly got your work cut out for you.
 

BK_CAULEY

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how does your first post end up in the BHR?
 

Venom351R

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First of all for taking an old fox that was destined to become a rusted pile of crap and wanting to bring it back to what it should be. You can find lots of info on here make sure to make your way over to the 5.0 specific section.
 

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thats a diamond in the ruff. Mine was the same way a BIG POS and I have transformed it. I paid 1800 for mine though. That is art work to me waiting to happen. Clean it up and make a beautiful piece of artwork!!!
 

Darkwriter77

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Turkey Sammich said:
I'll sell you my hatch.












Then, I can use it for a down payment on a 03/04 Cobra.
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You forget, I'm so poor that I'm not just broke, I'm broken. I'd be more than happy to trade ya' an '89 Chubby for it, though...
 

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First, welcome to the 5.0 world. Second, couldn't help but notice you're from Louisiana. By chance, does it not run cuz it was submerged, by chance? You can find new tail lights and lots of other stuff at Mustangs Unlimited, Year One, 5.0 Resto, 3 catalogs you'll want. Nice find, and good luck!
 

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Welcome to Stangnet...

Not all of us know how to fix everything, but some of us know how to fix some things with excellence!

If you want to do the fix up & power up thing, make sure that you have some other form of reliable daily driver. That way the stang can sit while your wallet and hands take a rest from the last project that didn't quite get finished on that 3 day weekend. Things always cost more and take longer the first time you do them. Having some other working vehicle makes life easier since it isn't the big crush to get it running for the Monday morning drive to work or class.

Plan on spending some money on tools it you don't already have them. The stang has both metric and american fasteners, so you really need two sets of wrenches. A timing light, digital voltmeter, vacuum gauge, compression tester, fuel pressure test gauge and fuel line coupler tools are some of the test & tuning tools you'll need. Visit the pawn shops and sometimes you can find a deal on tools & test equipment if you stick to well known name brands.

A sheltered work area is almost a must, someplace that you can leave the car in pieces without upsetting anyone. Some guys here have changed a transmission in the parking lot of their apartment in a rainstorm, but they will tell you it wasn't fun. Depending on where you live, a warm dry garage is a nice place to do the winter projects that stangs tend to become.

EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection) Computer - every stang after 85 has or had one: don't let it intimidate you. The computer based EFI systems are not hard to fix and most of the time they tell you what's wrong with the engine. Here's a book that will get you started with how the Ford electronic engine control or "computer" works.

Ford Fuel Injection & Electronic Engine Control 1988-1993 by James Probst :ISBN 0-8376-0301-3.

It's about $25-$30 from Borders.com see http://www.amazon.com/ . Select boo...d.php?t=643651"]Useful Technical Thread Index” sticky at the top of the 5.0 Tech forum.

Things that break often:
T5 5 speed manual transmission (syncros go bad, mostly 3rd gear)
TFI Module (Thin Film Ignition module - mounts on the distributor)
Electric door locks (see the link in my sign for a cheap & easy fix)
O2 sensors(oxygen sensors) They are good for about 60,000 miles and start to go down hill after that.
TPS Sensor (Throttle Position Sensor) causes flaky problems with idle & acceleration.
Fog lights They overheat the wiring and cause the headlights to flicker. The fix is cheap and simple if you can do electrical stuff.
Harmonic Balancer – they separate between the hub and outer ring. A harmonic balancer puller is a must have to change it. You can rent or borrow a puller from most of the larger auto parts stores.

Things that are very durable:
Engine - as long as it hasn't been abused, it will run good for 150,000-200,000 miles without an overhaul
Rear axle other than an occasional case of worn clutches in the traction lock, they almost never have problems.
Computer - believe it or not, the computers seldom have problems of their own. Most of the problems are with the sensors and the wiring.
Suspension – the front and rear suspension has very few problems if the car hasn’t been wrecked or seen a lot of drag strip runs. The drag strip runs tend to distort and tear the mount points for the rear axle control arms. Revving the engine up to 4000 RPM and dumping the clutch with slicks or drag radials tends to break things.

Things that don’t break often but are hard to fix:
Water pump mount bolts – they corrode and shear off when you try to change the water pump.
Rear oil seal on the engine – lots of parts to remove to get to a $20 seal.
Power steering pump – the pumps are noisy and the pulley requires some special tools to remove and install. If you have the tools, they are easy to do. Again, the larger auto parts stores will rent or loan the tools for the pulley.
Power Steering rack - it is hard to get the toe in set so that you can drive the car to the shop to get it properly aligned.
Starter – the top bolt is hard to get a socket on if you don’t have the right combination of socket, universal joint and extensions.

Everything considered, 5.0 Mustangs are not hard to work on. They just require some patience and though before you get started.
 

FrankenStang

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Make the '01 Catfish your DD and restore the GT as your weekend toy.
 

Foxfan88

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looks like a good deal on the car, the body is a little rough cosmetically but its all there. the interior also looks be complete and in good shape.

should clean up nice. good luck with it
 

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Amazon lists the Ford Fuel Injection and Electronic Engine Control book used for 174 bucks wtf!?!? http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...1_olp_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1204000478&sr=8-1
 

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~FrankenStang~ said:
Make the '01 Catfish your DD and restore the GT as your weekend toy.
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. best of luck on your project. keep us updated.
 

ProjectMucilage

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WOW, been a while since I' ve been here. I didn' t have my options set-up right, so I never knew you guys replied! Thanks for the warm welcome and the useful tips and advice! Guess I' ll give yall a little update and post some newer pics here.

Ok, so I bought a battery for the car, and my uncle diagnosed the problem to be a bad inertia switch, so he by-passed the enertia switch, changed the starter switch, and fired her up. Since that time, I have installed clear smoked taillights and a third brake light with led bulbs, picked up a set of Pony wheels for $100, and a set of Falken tires, and changed the oil to make it driveable. I have no second gear unless I grind the hell out of the tranny to get it in. The starter was bad, wouldn' t re-start without a 30-45 minute engine cool down. I recently changed that after two years of limping it along. I also recently did a full tune-up, painted the upper intake, wheelwells, brakes, and some other exterior trim, we converted it to 134A and re-charged the A/C, tinted the windows, and I straightened the pinch rail where some tool at jacked the car and knocked the right front fender out of alignment with the door. I' ve done all this work in just last couple months. The car seems to be running better since the tune-up, and especially since changing some bad vacuum lines under the intake. After the tune-up, I had issues with an erratic idle, but that seems to have ceased since changing a few vacuum lines. There is still a slight hesitation when I first give it a bit of throttle though. The only major issues I have with the car at this point, is the lack of 2nd gear, and my rear-end is binding up on me, due to the posi unit.

Now for some updated pics:





 

ProjectMucilage

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Thanks man! Paint on the body will come after I can put some act-right into the drivetrain. No point in having a pretty 17 second turd. Engine isn't running up to par, no second gear, and the rear-end is binding up on me right now.
 

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congrats on the purchase and welcome to the fox world!!! If you post frequent updates you'll find it helps motivate your progress! Good luck!
 

ProjectMucilage

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Thanks man! I' ve been pretty motivated lately! I just put a new set of wheels on my Camaro, and haven' t even driven the car yet. Still not quite done with the wheel install, have to alleviate some rubbing issues first. I' ve been toying with the Stang a good bit though. I just ordered new headlights, fog lights, hatch struts, striker and weather stripping for the Stang a few hours ago! I can't wait for my parts to come in! LOL
 

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Do paint first
 

ProjectMucilage

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I don' t really want it to look nice, if a brand new John Deere lawn mower can smoke me in a race.
 
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