No slack in clutch cable after FWA/quadrant install

After looking at the picture you attached up top, I can understand how a thread could have broken. I had a different machinist back then (when those were made) and the threads had a different pitch than they do now. Sometimes machinists get a bad batch of aluminum stock that tends to be more brittle than normal specs. One thing I've learned is that if a machinist buys bar stock from overseas (where there is no quality control), the quality of what they buy is a crap shoot.
Anyhow this thread breaking off would be a first for my product so let me make it up to you.

Joe

Didn't really read all of this thread but here's the quad and fwa i just picked up from Forte's parts Connection. Cheap money too!! $50

DMAC88LX said:

Didn't really read all of this thread but here's the quad and fwa i just picked up from Forte's parts Connection. Cheap money too!! $50

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Good luck. I had that quadrant, and it LOVED to snap clutch cables..........



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Usually, (though not without exception) you get what you pay for.

cevtv said:

Good luck. I had that quadrant, and it LOVED to snap clutch cables..........



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I`ve heard that one is a real POS...it even looks bad and only one hole for mounting .I wouldn`t install it.Go get your money back.

Here is a special treat I've shown Nobody yet, since I'm in the middle of comparing many of these for my article. this is a Fiore qaudrant on top of a MM quadrant, on top of a FORD RACING quadrant.

I've used and installed the ford racing, and the fiore piece, as well as a upr piece, which I couldn't uninstall in time (unfortunately) for this picture.

The Ford racing piece is pretty good. Although, Note it's longer design. This unit was designed to be used with an adjustable cable. A firewall adjuster is NOT offered.

I don't like adjusteable cables. When I was running this setup, I used a first gen steeda firewall adjuster with an oem fox clutch cable. The extra length on the quadrant caused the firewall adjuster to have to be turned in almost all the way to the firewall. It was "almost" too tight to use with a firewall adjuster, but not quite.

The fiore piece is much shorter. This unit landed with the firewall adjuster ring around the middle, give or take, which made me much more comfortable.

I'm going to have to rephoto soon with the UPR piece, which I have.

It'll prove my theory with triple hooks, which backs up a statement made earlier, and shot down. Triple hook quadrants are nearly useless (in the vast majority of street mustangs). The first hook grabs way too far forward, and the slack can't be dialed out. The furthest hooks is even further out than that ford racing quadrant hook, and is MUCH too tight (we blew out a brand new spec clutch in 3k miles because of that third hook....bro's car, he didn't know till it was too late) the only hook that will work is the middle hook. However, i've got to adjust the ring almost all the way out in all the cars i've installed it on to date, which, imo is kinda lousy placement of that third hook.

In my educated opinion, a triple or even double hook quadrant is not necessary if you get a well engineered single hook piece. In fact, the single hook quadrant will allow better placement and adjusteability, as you're not cramming mulitiple hooks onto one quadrant. Since an oem cable is an oem cable, and nearly all aftermarket parts are manufactored with compareable tolerances, a single hook will be all you should need, unless you're running a seriously custom setup. That's my opinion, and i'll stick to that, take care all.

That's pretty much how I remember the MM/FRPP overlay, before I returned the MM piece. (which reminds me: I still have the FRPP quad- anybody want one?) However, I don't see how it justifies your statement, and since I've had all three (MM, FRPP and UPR triple) overlaid together, I don't see how it will (wish I'd taken a picture now). To date I am still using the first (closest to FW) hook on my wife's UPR triple hook- stock original 118K clutch, MM OEM cable, UPR X FWA. Pretty basic setup, won't even reach the middle hook. Granted, it may with a new clutch disc, but this one is still grabbing well so it's valid. In my car as well: same quad and FWA, first hook. That may be the "highly custom" setup you mentioned though, I can't even use an OEM cable on it. (SPEC I, billet wheel, TKO, degreed scattershield, redesigned ball, custom fork, MM pedal relocation kit at lowest setting) so it may not be relevant to the discussion. *ps- my FRPP adjustable cable in this setup is coming up on 20K/mi, it's been tightened once* Regardless, of the last ten or so triple hooks I've done in Fox bodies all but one went on the first hook and didn't reach the second, and I've never installed a single hook with an OEM cable without problems. Granted, I have never used the fartest hook (UPR), ever. However, I have never been unable to make the UPR work, which is more than I can say for any other double/single hook I've used on various combos. I'm looking forward to your article, the last one was good so this should be quite a read! The question is, after all your comparing, which one are you going to keep in there?

very, very interesting. I've installed the upr triple onto I think 4 personal car now, and walked at least a dozen people through the install, and I've never seen anyone use that first hook to date. That's strange, though I don't doubt you at all.

I'm going to leave the fiore fwa on for sure, as I like it the best. I'll likely leave the quadrant on, but there are a few more setup's I haven't tried out yet. I just have to get my new damn drivetrain in so I can drive this frickin thing in again.

Not driving? You're at least able to start it and feel the true engagement for these comparisons, right?

Yeah, it is strange- it seems like the more of this I do, the less I'm able to depend on. It's such a simple, straitforward process, and yet every situation I encounter somehow manages to be unique- even when the same parts are used. The more I learn, the less I know...