PJM99 said:300 HP in a light bodied AWD car runs good. Stock to Stock the Cobra will catch on the high end. A few mods and the STI/EVO are pretty sick cars. Just like anything else if you build it the right way the engine should hold up. EVO and STI have taken down 03/04 Cobra and Vettes. They are pretty serious cars. I'm not into the whole ricer thing but I do respect those cars. You're basically getting a race car that handles great and is fast. Yeah it's a 4 banger with 300+ HP running in the high 12's low 13's. I wouldn't call them worthless.
drummer said:Displacement is not always necessary! The 4.6 has some of the most potential just look at some of these cobra guys getting over 700whp and some 800whp. The 4.6 is big in comparison to alot of these ricers getting over 200whp out of their 2.0 dohc honda S2000's. Ford's 4.6 has so much more potential and yes that 300hp is most likely 300whp on the 05(Plenty). You can get a hell alot more out of motors nowadays and we are a long way from the old pushrod, big displacement age(5.7ohv)..... Ford knew this. You just cannot get as much power out of a 2V pushrod (5.7LOHV vs 5.7LOHC)as you can with a OHC 3/4v design.... Proven! SO about the 4.6 being too small hahaha I guess the ricers think that their 240hp 2.0L's are BIG BLOCKS HAHAHA.
drummer said:Im sorry I thought you were serious as to compare those cars to a 03 Cobra which mind you is supercharged and has nearly 400hp TO THE WHEELS! I hope that you are talking about a 99-02 Cobra...
mball said:He IS serious. A stock STi will run the quarter in 12.9 which is right about what the 03 Cobra will do it in. Add a few minor mods to the STi and it will beat a Cobra with ease,As with the STi, put some light mods on the Evo and it will beat a Cobra. Lets not even mention how badly the STi or Evo would destroy a Cobra on a road course when turning, downshifting and other REAL racing techniques come into play.
SVTdriver said:And let's not talk about the $40 pulley change to the cobra that will add a bunch of hp.
TomServo92 said:On a recent "Horsepower TV" they dynoed an '03 Cobra with the pulley change and had something like 418HP at the rear wheels!.
Thats funny, because STOCK 03 Cobra's are noted to run 12.5-12.6's. I've seen STOCK 03 Cobra's with STOCK tires run 12.5 at a local track on a hot daymball said:He IS serious. A stock STi will run the quarter in 12.9 which is right about what the 03 Cobra will do it in. Add a few minor mods to the STi and it will beat a Cobra with ease, I have seen it myself at the track quite a few times. An Evo on the otherhand takes a tick over 13 seconds, it will take a Cobra off the line but the Cobra will catch and pass it around 75 mph. As with the STi, put some light mods on the Evo and it will beat a Cobra. Lets not even mention how badly the STi or Evo would destroy a Cobra on a road course when turning, downshifting and other REAL racing techniques come into play.
Pulley and a tune, and they hardly spent any money. Where's that going to get you? High 11's if you can drive.TomServo92 said:On a recent "Horsepower TV" they dynoed an '03 Cobra with the pulley change and had something like 418HP at the rear wheels!.
mball said:and other REAL racing techniques come into play.
I totally agree with you, but all cobra's have gotten performance engines over the regular Mustang GT, and theres more speculation on the shelby and new SVT, infact they said that they are in the stages of still developing an engine, so we'll have to see what they to offer when that time comes around. Personally, I would love to see that they would have made an optional 5.4L for the GT and a mandatory 5.4L 4v in the cobra, or even a stroked/bored versionone2gamble said:I dont disagree with you completely. Only that a "family" of engines isnt set in stone. Ford used to have the wind and the clev, the windsor turned into a great performance engine but the clev was supposed to the peformance engine. I see no reason why ford couldnt build another line of modular motors designed for performance cars. They seem to be playing with hi-po v10's and have a 140,000 performance car. Other performance cars from svt/shelby are on the way. Why not have specific engines for these cars? Volvo gets one....why not the cobra?
jadesville said:True race cars? so quarter mile is not racing?
Oh really? Well, let me know when you cut something lower than a 2.0 60', maybe you should tell John Force that he doesnt have any skill. Anyone can pick up a 6,000HP car and just drive it right? I've done both, im an amateur, and I see it, they both take skill.. Im sure you wouldnt know that though because im sure you knocked it before you even tried it.mball said:Not by my standards. A monkey could sit there, hold the wheel straight and mash the gas pedal to the finish line, there is no skill involved at all. Go race a few laps on a 1.5 mile road course where you have to think and have alot of racing and driving skills to win, thats REAL racing. Oh and by the way...dont take a Cobra unless you plan to fishtail and run off the road in your first turn
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