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In almost all of the People's Republic of Kalifornia, we have to pass a smog test every two years to register our cars. On my most-recent attempt, my 90 LX 5.0 failed because the technician was unable to hold the engine speed (rpm) steady enough to complete the test. Here's how it's supposed to work (for you non-Kalifornians): they put the car on a dynomometer, put a load on it, put the car in gear, and run the engine speed up to 2000 rpm. It's required to hold the speed within a certain range (plus or minus a few hundred rpm) for a specified amount of time (30 seconds or a minute, something like that). If the rpms drift out of range, the test is failed and you try again. The guy tried six times and wasn't able to hold the speed steady enough to pass the test.

Have any of you guys seen such a thing before? The car is reading 11/11 on both engine off and engine running codes and it seems to hold a fairly stead speed on the road. I'm mystefied.

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Stock car?
 
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Completely stock, all original.
 

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Does the car hold 2,000RPM at speed on the highway? Was he trying to hold the speed using your cruise control? And if so, does your cruise control work? have you ever run the car for computer codes to ensure everything is working as it should?
 

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If oyu are able to do this on the road on the drive home, I would question if the operator performing the test was doing it right.
 
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Gearbanger 101 said:
Does the car hold 2,000RPM at speed on the highway? Was he trying to hold the speed using your cruise control? And if so, does your cruise control work? have you ever run the car for computer codes to ensure everything is working as it should?
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I was thinking the same thing, so on the way home, I put it in first and ran the rpms up to 2000 and it seemed to be fairly steady, although not perfectly so. It seemed to surge a little bit, but very little.

They do not use the cruise control during the test.

The codes are all 11/11.
 
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If oyu are able to do this on the road on the drive home, I would question if the operator performing the test was doing it right.
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Yeah, I had that thought too, but he's been in the business for a long time and has a good reputation according to someone I trust.
 

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Only thing I'd suggest it to perform the idle reset procedure and ensure the IAC has it's proper range of motion to control RPM.
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
Only thing I'd suggest it to perform the idle reset procedure and ensure the IAC has it's proper range of motion to control RPM.
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Can you direct me to the idle reset procedure?

How can I test the IAC's range of motion?
 

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Pull the plug on the IAC. Open the throttle stop screw a few turns and start the engine. Idle should be high. Now slowly back the idle set screw down until you achieve a comfortable, but low idle. A bit lower than what you'd normal expect it to idle at.

Now pull the cables on the battery for 30 mins. Plus the IAC back in. Rehook up the battery and fire it up. Let it idle for a few mins. Turn off, restart and it should be pretty much all set.

If you run your engine codes, the EEC will attempt to raise idle to 1500ish RPM. if it can't, it will dump a code.
 
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Interesting. I'll give it a try.

I am grateful for your suggestions. Thank you!
 

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You may have to clean the egr valve too, wouldn't hurt, just be careful what you use to clean it, some products will harm the diaphragm.
Get @jrichker to join in, I think he is the resident 'tool'.
Not to derail but is there a point in a vehicles life where it is exempt? In the republic of kalifornia, that is.
 
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Probably not a bad idea to clean the EGR. It is definitely one of the biggest reliability problems with the 5.0.

Yes, jrichker has been a great friend to this board and has helped me out in the past.

When the state put the law in place, they exempted old cars and every year, the exemption advanced one year. Then they decided to stop it, so the exemption year hasn't changed in decades. Last I heard, it was 1974 models and earlier. Everything else has to be smogged. And, by the way, it is illegal to modify your engine in any way.
 

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As requested...


IAC doesn't work: look for +12 volts at the IAC red wire. Then check for continuity between the white/lt blue wire and pin 21 on the computer. The IAC connector contacts will sometimes corrode and make the IAC not work. The red wire on the IAC is always hot with the engine in run mode. The computer provides a ground for the current for the IAC. It switches the ground on and off, making a square wave with a varying duty cycle. A normal square wave would be on for 50% of the time and off for 50% of the time. When the idle speed is low, the duty cycle increases more than 50% to open the IAC more. When the engine speed is high, it decreases the duty cycle to less than 50% to close the IAC. An old-fashioned dwell meter can be used to check the change: I haven’t tried it personally, but it should work. In theory, it should read ½ scale of whatever range you set it on with a 50% duty cycle. An Oscilloscope is even better if you can find someone who has one and will help.



Automobile computers use current sink technology. They do not source power to any relay, solenoid or actuator like the IAC, fuel pump relay, or fuel injectors. Instead the computer provides a ground path for the positive battery voltage to get back to the battery negative terminal. That flow of power from positive to negative is what provides the energy to make the IAC, fuel pump relay, or fuel injectors work. No ground provided by the computer, then the actuators and relays don't operate.

We are going to supply an artificial ground path to the IAC instead of letting the computer supply the ground.

Start the engine and let it warm up.

Take one of the cheap inline fuse holders with a 5 amp fuse in it. Use it to bypass the blue/white wire to ground. You'll have to get creative probing the back side of the IAC wiring with safety pins or paper clips. Since the computer doesn't supply any voltage , but supplies a ground, that can't hurt the computer. The 5 amp fuse protects you and the wiring if there is an internal short in the IAC coil.

The engine should speed up when the fuse holder wire is grounded and slow down or stall when the fuse holder wire is disconnected from ground.



Recommended procedure for cleaning the IAC/IAB:
Conventional cleaning methods like throttle body cleaner aren’t very effective. The best method is a soak type cleaner used for carburetors. If you are into fixing motorcycles, jet skis, snowmobiles or anything else with a small carburetor, you probably have used the one gallon soak cleaners like Gunk or Berryman. One of the two should be available at your local auto parts store for $22-$29. Take the solenoid off the body and set it aside: the carb cleaner will damage some types of plastic parts. Soak the metal body in the carb cleaner overnight. There is a basket to set the parts in while they are soaking. When you finish soaking overnight, twist the stem of the IAB/IAC that sticks out while the blocker valve is seated. This removes any leftover deposits from the blocker valve seat. Rinse the part off with water and blow it dry with compressed air. The IAC/IAB should seal up nicely now. Once it has dried, try blowing through the bottom hole and it should block the air flow. If it doesn't block the airflow, there is still something that is gumming up the works. Reassemble and reinstall to check it out. Reassemble and reinstall to check it out.

Gunk Dip type carb & parts soaker:


Setting the base idle speed:
First of all, the idle needs to be adjusted to where the speed is at or below 600 RPM with the IAC disconnected. If you have a wild cam, you may have to raise this figure 100-150 RPM or so. Then the electrical signal through the IAC can vary the airflow through it under computer control. Remember that the IAC can only add air to increase the base idle speed set by the mechanical adjustment. The 600 RPM base idle speed is what you have after the mechanical adjustment. The IAC increases that speed by supplying more air under computer control to raise the RPM’s to 650-725 RPM’s. This figure will increase if you have a wild cam, and may end up between 800-950 RPM

Remember that changing the mechanical idle speed adjustment changes the TPS setting too.

This isn't the method Ford uses, but it does work. Do not attempt to set the idle speed until you have fixed all the codes and are sure that there are no vacuum leaks.

Disconnect the battery negative terminal and turn the headlights on. Leave the battery negative terminal disconnected for 5 minutes or so. Then turn the headlights off and reconnect the battery. This erases the computer settings that may affect idle performance.

Warm the engine up to operating temperature, place the transmission in neutral, and set the parking brake. Turn off lights, A/C, all unnecessary electrical loads. Disconnect the IAC electrical connector. Remove the SPOUT plug. This will lock the ignition timing so that the computer won't change the spark advance, which changes the idle speed. Note the engine RPM: use the mechanical adjustment screw under the throttle body to raise or lower the RPM until you get the 600 RPM mark +/- 25 RPM. A wild cam may make it necessary to increase the 600 RPM figure to 700 RPM or possibly a little more to get a stable idle speed.
Changing the mechanical adjustment changes the TPS, so you will need to set it.

When you are satisfied with the results, turn off the engine, and re-install the SPOUT and reconnect the IAC. The engine should idle with the range of 650-750 RPM without the A/C on or extra electrical loads. A wild cam may make this figure somewhat higher.
 
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Awesome write up, jrichker! Thanks for the help. I'll take a whack at it and let you know how it turns out.
 

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If you're going to do the idle reset, you may as well take it one step further. If this car is truly all original, then its probably gummed right up with carbon. As jrichker stated, carefully remove the IAC (so not do damage the gasket) and clean out the carbon build up. You should do the same with the EGR valve and the pollution tube that spans the back of each cylinder head and connects to your smog system. These area's are famous forgumming up after some years and miles and cleaning them can only help things.

While you're at it, check the engine for vacuum leaks. Spraying a little brake clean at vacuum lines and connection, around the lower manifold, throttle body and other known areas, to listen for an idle change will help you detect any leaks.

It's an old car. Things were out, they dry rot, they carbon up, they break. Even when you're not putting a lot of miles on it.
 
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Good suggestions, Gearbanger. I've tried cleaning the EGR in the past but is it largely inaccessible. Is there anything that can be done beyond soaking it?

I've had problems with a blocked pollution tube in the past. It's a bear to clean out once it's completely blocked. It's probably due to be checked again.
 
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One question, if you don't mind: when you refer to the IAC, I am assuming you're talking about what Ford calls the Throttle Bypass Air Valve. Am I correct? Are they the same thing?

Also, what is the right cleaner to use on the throttle body? I understand there is a coating that doesn't like certain cleaners.
 

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Correct, Bypass air valve is the same thing as what we referred to as the IAC above. Little silver cylinder on the frontside of the throttle body.

As for cleaner, Ive just used whatever I had on hand. The coating just keeps grime from building up, but if the TB is dirty, they it defeats the purpose. It's not really absolutely critical to worry too much about that.
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
Correct, Bypass air valve is the same thing as what we referred to as the IAC above. Little silver cylinder on the frontside of the throttle body.

As for cleaner, Ive just used whatever I had on hand. The coating just keeps grime from building up, but if the TB is dirty, they it defeats the purpose. It's not really absolutely critical to worry too much about that.
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Thanks 5L5.
 
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