Blev said:I was really concerned about the intake leaking and just wasn't worth the headache of tearing it all down again if it did leak. I got the plates and I liked it alot. I can't say what it felt like without the plates because I'm the only one around here I know who did the intake swap. I'll be getting rid of mine this weekend, PM me if your interested in them.
CanadaStang said:Does this mean you are starting the headswap this weekend?
Yes sir....We are gonna start Friday after I get outa work. I'm hoping to have it finished by Sunday early in the day so I can go for a long drive to break everything in. Our local speed shop (MMR) is going to have their Dyno in soon so I should have some numbers to go with it by the end of the year or early in Jan.CanadaStang said:Does this mean you are starting the headswap this weekend?
Dude, are you serious? 35 rwhp for a PI intake swap with adaptor plates vs just 10-15hp for the PI intake alone? Where did you find that piece of info?Green4 said:.... they gained like 35 ish rwhp with the adaptor plates
Those figures came from Livenoise motorsports. As to the validity of them, I don't think they had a dyno sheet. The smoother transition of the air from the intake to the heads does net some power without question, as to how much, I can't say.GulfCoastMustang said:Dude, are you serious? 35 rwhp for a PI intake swap with adaptor plates vs just 10-15hp for the PI intake alone? Where did you find that piece of info?
I'd say the 10-15hp estimate is pretty accurate from a SOTP feel when I did the PI Intake swap (a bit more of an improvement than the Off-Road H-Pipe). Didn't use any adaptor plates and never saw any leaks. I'm just having a hard time believing a little bit of port matching is worth an additional 20-25hp.
No question about that - port matching is a worthwhile endeavor, but I can promise anyone here that it is not worth 20-25hp, even in forced induction apps. 5-10hp would be somewhat believeable.Blev said:Those figures came from Livenoise motorsports. As to the validity of them, I don't think they had a dyno sheet. The smoother transition of the air from the intake to the heads does net some power without question, as to how much, I can't say.
GulfCoastMustang said:No question about that - port matching is a worthwhile endeavor, but I can promise anyone here that it is not worth 20-25hp, even in forced induction apps. 5-10hp would be somewhat believeable.
$649 for 5-10hp? Money better spent elsewhere, IMHO.
Green4.6GT said:keep in mind, this is almost as good as the headswap (10-15hp diffrence) and the headswap isnt anywhere near as cheap as this... you have to buy the heads, new head bolts, head gaskets, cam cover gaskets etc... add 400 bucks to the price of the intake and heads and you should be about right, not to mention pulling your entire engine bay appart, i like this approach alot better..
The 5-10hp is just an estimate of what I feel the plates are worth over doing the intake alone. And if your numbers are right, then I guess I wasn't too far off. 18-22hp for the intake alone and 35hp for the intake with plates. So that makes the plates worth 13-17hp.Blev said:I'm not sure where you get the 5 - 10 hp from, but I know that the kit will give roughly 25 - 30 hp. I have seen dyno sheets from JUST the intake without the plates that reflect 18 - 22. I'm sure this varies due to other mods. HP/TQ doesn't come cheap, we all know this. We also know every pony counts. Anything that can be bolted on to make our cars faster is money well spent. Even a 100 - 200 CAI that only nets about 2-7 hp.
That's just MHO though. Others may not agree.
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