PMS Info thread for all PMS questions

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Got PMS question ask in here? There seems to be a lot of interest in this so ask all questions in here and go to Troy's informative site @ www.stangtuning.com

This is copy and paste from another thread I didn't want to hi-jack and overwhelm with Q&A on this subject.

BlueOvalStangGT said:
The PMS unit doesnt require a lap top does it? And doesnt one of the tweecer models let you datalog so you dont need a laptop?Im too poor to own one of those foldable computers.
You don't need a laptop with the O4 PMS but if you want to save data logging info you have to have one. Other than that it can be completely tuned by pushing a few buttons and you have realtime monitoring in your view. Here are a few screens that what it can do for you so you get the jist of it ..
This is an O4 AFM PMS by EFI Systems

Main Menu Options
(Each option has a table)



This is the Part Throttle table for fuel



This one is for timing



This is my Idle table



This is realtime moitoring of what I watch when driving





O4 PMS features

* Now comes with global fuel adjustments, which means you can offset the mass air for different sized injectors.

* Air charge temp and Water temp fuel and timing adjustments can now be made from -40 to +250 degrees

* TPS volts are now adjustable: What this means is if you want 1.05 to be idle you put that in. The same with W.O.T. - you tell the PMS what volts.

* NEW! Easier to use controller with adjustments down to 500 rpm increments starting at 2000 rpm

* NEW! for 2004 single data display screens let you monitor spark timing, injector function, oxygen sensor, water temp, air charge temp., mass air voltage and manifold pressure/vacuum

* Start fuel setting, which controls the injector when the starter is turning the motor over. This gets rid of the hard starting with 42 lb. injector or bigger.

* Air Fuel Mixture fully adjustable.

* Idle Mixture and Timing fully adjustable.


* Stand alone turn on is now adjustable: The stand alone is set up to turn on at 3500rpm, which can be adjusted from 2000 rpm to 5600 rpm. The factory EEC has no control in standalone mode. This gives us even better fuel and timing control and now the Rev limiter can be moved to as high as 9900 rpm with a faster processor.

* Total spark and rate-of-advance fully adjustable.

* Two step rev-limiter.

* Two programmable RPM/Throttle output accessory control switches.

* Tunable Nitrous Oxide Adjustment Table.

* Tunable Turbo or Supercharger timing and fuel adjustment up to 30lb of boost.

* Purple anodized, finned aluminum case resists corrosion, dirt and moisture!

* Easy installation in less than one hour.

* Plug in and Run” installations requires no programming—Just start it up and go!

* Increased RAM, EPROM, and EEPROM Internal Memory Capacity!

* Easy “User Friendly” operation—detailed owner’s manual explains all functions.
 
I never used a twEEcer and was considering b/t the R/T and this PMS when I was shopping. So I can't honestly compare from exp but I know a few people with them and am familiar.

They cost more b/c of the handheld screen plus it's a complete stand alone computer that plugs into your EEC.

The O4 is $857 from AFM
The 3 bar map is $85 for boost table option
UEGO WB is around $550-600 for real time readings on the PMS monitor.
 
I talked to Troy and this is the email he sent me.....

 
I've had both the Tweecer and PMS. Haven't used the PMS though. The Tweecer is great but I hated to lug a laptop around with it. Probably because at the time my laptop was like $1600. The datalogging was great. For you AOD or AODE guys the Tweecer is what you want. From what I've seen with the PMS in person on a dyno it's just much easier to use and many tuners know how to use them. You can't go wrong either way and saying one is better over the other is just stupid. What's ever easier for you to use then that's the one to get.

I don't have any PMS questions yet but when the car is running I'll have plenty.