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Rdub6 · Mar 4, 2021

Started the cleanup today while I had a few minutes.

Some more work on Friday morning. Now I know why they invented sand blasters! This is taking some time!

Rdub6 · Mar 6, 2021

I need to add more expense to this build like I need a hole in the head, but I’ve been thinking of something.
While I have the rear end and all the control arms out, I’m thinking of doing the torque box reinforcements.
Is this upgrade one of those “you have to do it” like subframe connectors? Its probably a good bang for the buck from what I can tell. Those of you following along, what do you think?

HemiRick · Mar 6, 2021

According to MM this mod is completely unnecessary, if you buy control arms w 2 types of polyurethane bushings....stiffer in the center and softer on the outside.

Rdub6 · Mar 6, 2021

HemiRick said:
According to MM this mod is completely unnecessary, if you buy control arms w 2 types of polyurethane bushings....stiffer in the center and softer on the outside.

I plan on going with their uppers with the rubber bushings

Rear Upper Control Arms, 1979-2004 Mustang

and these rears

Sport series Mustang Rear Lower Control Arms, 1979-1998

So I guess your saying I’ll be ok?

Cheapskate207 · Mar 6, 2021

I recently installed LMR's TB reinforcements on my car. I had BBK upper and lower control arms with poly bushings and planned to swap to the exact same set up you plan to. I also had the same thought process as you and decided while the control arms were out I'd add the TB kit for peace of mind. Are they necessary? Probably not. Especially considering I had the "wrong" set up before and my TB's were perfect. In my situation (no racing or slicks), I kinda figured that it was a preventative measure - reinforce now to prevent possible damage later.

I will say though; it's quite a bit of work if you plan to weld in and want to completely remove the interior. It was a fun winter project though.

Rdub6 · Mar 6, 2021

Cheapskate207 said:
I recently installed LMR's TB reinforcements on my car. I had BBK upper and lower control arms with poly bushings and planned to swap to the exact same set up you plan to. I also had the same thought process as you and decided while the control arms were out I'd add the TB kit for peace of mind. Are they necessary? Probably not. Especially considering I had the "wrong" set up before and my TB's were perfect. In my situation (no racing or slicks), I kinda figured that it was a preventative measure - reinforce now to prevent possible damage later.

I will say though; it's quite a bit of work if you plan to weld in and want to completely remove the interior. It was a fun winter project though.

Thanks! Sometimes I get caught up in the “mod” thing, looking to do everything I can, even though I probably don’t need it. I’m never going to have crazy horsepower in this thing, so I’ll probably pass on these.

So I decided to order my rear end brake line set.

MM Stainless Hard Line & 3-hose kit, 1986-93, SN95 (1994-04) calipers, rear

Once I get that, I can put the whole rear together, with calipers and rotors, and put it to the side until I get the rest of what I need! It’ll be nice to get that thing off my work bench!

LX1993 · Mar 6, 2021

Yes on the torque box reinforcements as a must do mod, doesn't matter which control arms as to whether you do them or not. Inherently flawed design, which most all the available tkits overcome, cheap & easily installed.

HemiRick · Mar 7, 2021

From MM website,"Better by design

Stress on the chassis torque-boxes is greatly reduced because the MM design allows proper articulation of the rear suspension.
3-piece urethane bushings allow articulation while reducing deflection and damping noise transmission.
Large 2" diameter round steel tube design for highest strength.
Why do I need MM Rear Lower Control Arms?

The stock Mustang rear lower control arms are fitted with very large, soft rubber bushings. Those bushings allow the axle to shift fore and aft, causing the toe of the rear tires to change. Toe changes cause instability as the rear of the car steers itself in unpredictable directions. The rubber bushings also allow axle wind-up during acceleration, which in turn causes wheel hop.
MM Rear Lower Control Arms were designed by our engineering team to minimize fore/aft movement of the axle, while also retaining the suspension's ability to properly articulate. This improves performance without unnecessarily compromising ride quality or handling.
Potential torque-box damage is greatly reduced because the MM design allows the suspension to easily articulate."

Monkeybutt2000 · Mar 7, 2021

You can just weld the torque boxes up solid and never worry about it again.

ThinBlue502 · Mar 7, 2021

I put in the TB reinforcements with supplied hardware, then welded it all together as well. While I had the interior out, I added sound dampening as well.

90sickfox · Mar 8, 2021

Torque box reinforcements don't hurt performance, function, or resale value if done right. Never heard anyone say someone's torque boxes needed to flex....or that they were too stiff. It's like through the floor subframe connectors. Do you really need them on a mild street car ?... no. Does the stiffness help handling and rattles ?...yes. if you have the money and stuff will be out if the way then there's no harm in doing it.

Ps. I had a car that ripped the drivers side torque box out with stock arms and bushings.

Rdub6 · Mar 9, 2021

So while I contemplate my torque boxes, I took advantage of the 60 degrees and sunny today, and got my control arms primed and painted.
Not the best, but better than buying new for now.

Steel1 · Mar 9, 2021

Fwiw , I installed lower torque box reinforcements many years ago when I upgraded UC / LC.
At the time I had no access to a welder so I bolted them in, last time I was under there torque boxes
looked great.
If I get ambitious enough I may lay some beads on them with my buddies welder but this is just a street
car no launching / slicks.

Rdub6 · Mar 9, 2021

Also pulled my steering rack today. Another thing on the list...... just need to decide which way I’m going on a replacement.

Potomus Pete · Mar 9, 2021

Man, you are working that car hard. When do you think you will be driving. Ready to see how your gears work out .

Rdub6 · Mar 9, 2021

Potomus Pete said:
Man, you are working that car hard. When do you think you will be driving. Ready to see how your gears work out .

Thanks man!
Yeah, I wish I could blink and have it done! But I do enjoy the whole process. My original goal was spring, but I think now I’d be happy to have it out enjoying some nice fall weather. We’ll see!
As far as the gears, that is my biggest fear right now...... that something isn’t right.
But if it isn’t, everything is clean and new and will come back apart that much easier.
Im also spending the money little by little, so sometimes that slows the process some. But it gives me time to clean and paint.

Rdub6 · Mar 14, 2021

Whomever let this power steering leak all over did me a favor, because the paint underneath it on this k-member is like new!

Rdub6 · Mar 15, 2021

As I clean up this k-member, laying under the car, contorting my arms into places that they don’t want to go, I’m noticing that I’m 8 bolts, and two motor mounts away from being able to drop this thing, get it completely cleaned and repainted.
Im really considering one of these bars, and just drop it down.
And in the “while I’m here” thought process, I can change the the leaking pan gasket, and clean and paint the pan.

Steel1 · Mar 15, 2021

I've used that bar multiple times on my 93 as well as other cars, does what it's made to do.

Rdub6 · Mar 15, 2021

Steel1 said:
I've used that bar multiple times on my 93 as well as other cars, does what it's made to do.

I guess the bolts at the front of the heads are the best to go with?

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