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MotleyCrue

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Hi guys,


A guy told me last night that if you break a new car in hard, by hard he meant getting on it every now and then and not drving it around like a grandma he said the car would be just that much faster after it was broke in. He said a new car thats driven around like a grandma car will never end up being as fast as a new car that was driven hard in its break in stage. Is that true? Thanks I hope that all makes sense
 

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I don't see where banging a new car would be good. I mix city and highway driving for the first 500 miles and avoid heavy breaking or hard starts. I also change the oil at 1k miles, then 2k miles after that, then 3k miles after that (at 1k, 3k, and 6k) with manufacturer's reccommended oil, then switch to Mobil1 at the 9k oil change.

I handle the maintenence on mine and my wife's cars, and we have had 8 new cars since 1992 and put over 450k miles on them. They all ran excellently, and never had any failures.

I would not beat a new car like you have illustrated. I waited till about 500 miles into the first oil change w/ Mobil1 before I got hard on my car. I'm at 35k miles now.

Matt
 

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MotleyCrue said:
Hi guys,


A guy told me last night that if you break a new car in hard, by hard he meant getting on it every now and then and not drving it around like a grandma he said the car would be just that much faster after it was broke in. He said a new car thats driven around like a grandma car will never end up being as fast as a new car that was driven hard in its break in stage. Is that true? Thanks I hope that all makes sense
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That sounds ridiculous. Just drive normal. Don't drive hard or slow. Wait till 2k and then you can get on it as hard as you want.
 

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Nitrous at 900 miles, ATI at 1500 miles, and a vortech at 7500 miles with no problems at all. Just drive the thing normally.
 

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Drive the piss out of it! I did/do
 
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DerekStangGT

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NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! DRIVE LIKE A GRANNY FOR THE FIRST 1-2K MILES!!!!! here is the reason: when the car is BRAND NEW, the oil in the engine is not quite circulating like it should. also, metal is rubbing metal for the first time and there might be uneven surfaces that need to be rubbed down. not all cars are made exatly perfect. you must drive easy for the fist 1k miles at least!! then get your oil changed at ~2k, and ask the mechanic to look at the oil. it will be filled w/ metal shavings. that is caused by metal rubbing metal at uneven surfaces. driving "hard" (redlining, shifting high, WOT, etc) causes the metal to rub harder, and could cause damage or even decrease the life of the car. please be kind the first 1-2k miles. plus, even if im wrong, its better safe than sorry. but this is a proven fact
 

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DerekStangGT said:
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! DRIVE LIKE A GRANNY FOR THE FIRST 1-2K MILES!!!!! here is the reason: when the car is BRAND NEW, the oil in the engine is not quite circulating like it should. also, metal is rubbing metal for the first time and there might be uneven surfaces that need to be rubbed down. not all cars are made exatly perfect. you must drive easy for the fist 1k miles at least!! then get your oil changed at ~2k, and ask the mechanic to look at the oil. it will be filled w/ metal shavings. that is caused by metal rubbing metal at uneven surfaces. driving "hard" (redlining, shifting high, WOT, etc) causes the metal to rub harder, and could cause damage or even decrease the life of the car. please be kind the first 1-2k miles. plus, even if im wrong, its better safe than sorry. but this is a proven fact
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I'd listen to him. If you want it to last longer do that, you would be sorry in the long run.
 
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I beat the $hit out of mine from the first moment I took it off the lot for a test drive with only 2 miles on the clock. The owner let me and my buddy take it by ourselves (his dad knew the owner). I was pounding on the car hard and my buddy looked at me and said "Ya know, you might be buying this car" so I just laughed and said "I don't care ... if something's going to break, it's going to break now." Guess what? Still runs like a champ today with 27k miles and no problems with it.

I don't beat on it every single day, but I don't baby it either. That break-in crap is just that ... crap!
 

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01'TRUE BLUE GT said:
I beat the $hit out of mine from the first moment I took it off the lot for a test drive with only 2 miles on the clock. The owner let me and my buddy take it by ourselves (his dad knew the owner). I was pounding on the car hard and my buddy looked at me and said "Ya know, you might be buying this car" so I just laughed and said "I don't care ... if something's going to break, it's going to break now." Guess what? Still runs like a champ today with 27k miles and no problems with it.

I don't beat on it every single day, but I don't baby it either. That break-in crap is just that ... crap!
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Bad bad man. LOL j/k
 

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If you drive it like a pu$$y, it will be a pu$$y!
 
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01'TRUE BLUE GT said:
I beat the $hit out of mine from the first moment I took it off the lot for a test drive with only 2 miles on the clock. The owner let me and my buddy take it by ourselves (his dad knew the owner). I was pounding on the car hard and my buddy looked at me and said "Ya know, you might be buying this car" so I just laughed and said "I don't care ... if something's going to break, it's going to break now." Guess what? Still runs like a champ today with 27k miles and no problems with it.

I don't beat on it every single day, but I don't baby it either. That break-in crap is just that ... crap!
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i dont mean to start a flame war here
if this has happened to you, i applaud your good fortune. however, this is a rare incident. it is proven that when engine components are new (pistons, crank, flywheel, clutch, and any other moving part in an engine) they often rub together in ways that are not best for the life of the engine. parts often have uneven surfaces or rough spots when they are new, regardless of how well the oil circulates. this is proven. when you shift high, that means the pistons are moving more quickly, thus causeing a higher degree of danger for the engine, especially if one of the pistons hits a rough spot during its revolution. these are simple facts, and if your car still runs strong, great. but you are only at 27k miles. this would affect the life of an engine, meaning it would start to break down around 50-75k miles when the engine should last well into 100k miles.
i again say, even if i am wrong, better safe than sorry.
to the person who started the thread, i know it is a temptation to drive your brand new pony hard, but please for your sake, resist. after ~2k miles and after youve had the oil changed for the first 1 or 2 times, then you may have all the fun you desire
 

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DerekStangGT said:
i dont mean to start a flame war here
if this has happened to you, i applaud your good fortune. however, this is a rare incident. it is proven that when engine components are new (pistons, crank, flywheel, clutch, and any other moving part in an engine) they often rub together in ways that are not best for the life of the engine. parts often have uneven surfaces or rough spots when they are new, regardless of how well the oil circulates. this is proven. when you shift high, that means the pistons are moving more quickly, thus causeing a higher degree of danger for the engine, especially if one of the pistons hits a rough spot during its revolution. these are simple facts, and if your car still runs strong, great. but you are only at 27k miles. this would affect the life of an engine, meaning it would start to break down around 50-75k miles when the engine should last well into 100k miles.
i again say, even if i am wrong, better safe than sorry.
to the person who started the thread, i know it is a temptation to drive your brand new pony hard, but please for your sake, resist. after ~2k miles and after youve had the oil changed for the first 1 or 2 times, then you may have all the fun you desire
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Maybe for Natalie
 
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Trublu01 said:
If you drive it like a pu$$y, it will be a pu$$y!
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Ya know ... I almost used your saying in my post.
 

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Atleast you remembered. How ya been?
 
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Derek ... that's fine if you follow all that bull, but I never believed in it. Our engines are broken-in at the factory so there's no need to drive it like grandma. IF I ever have any troubles and my engine lives a short life you can have the satisfaction of saying "I told you so" ... Otherwise you'll have to listen to me telling you how good my car runs for the next 100-200k miles from my hard break-in cause I'm keeping it til the wheels fall off.
 
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Trublu01 said:
Atleast you remembered. How ya been?
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... yeah. Pretty good here, how about you? I was really busy with work over the summer so now I have more time on my hands to help train these kids.
 

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HAHAHA! I just stop in once in a while. Other than that I can't complain.
 
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HAHAHA! I just stop in once in a while. Other than that I can't complain.
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That's cool Mark, your car still looks great after seeing the new avatar. Take a look at my sig and you can see I haven't even had enough time to get to the strip this year ... maybe next year.
 

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Damn, a year and a half.
 
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