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rear defrost button illuminated 100% of the time :mad:

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  • Start date Start date Apr 2, 2006

urban96

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the light on the rear defrost switch is staying on all the time and killed my battery once.

i pulled the big fuse for it in the engine bay for now. is anything else connected to that same circut?

i can live without the rear defrost since the car is not driven in the winter but would like to make sure nothing else is running off that same fuse. thanks


*edit* title should say button not buttin
 
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I have not heard of this one before so I am going to take a guess... There must be some kind of timer relay that shuts the rear defrost off after a period of time. My theory is that it is broken and needs replaced. Perhaps it is in one of the fuse blocks?
 

urban96

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could it have anything to do with swaping in a 99-01 cobra gauge cluster?
 

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My guess would be that the rear defroster relay contacts are stuck together. Try swapping relays around and see what happens.
 

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Sorry to drag this up from the dead, but I just did the same thing and have the same problem..

Just swapped in a 99-01 Cobra cluster into my 02 GT and my rear defrost is stuck on all the time. I felt the back window and it is warm so it is actually on.

Anyone know why this is or what needs to be done to fix it?

Thanks!!
Riley
 

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Okay, I'm going to answer my own question...

Turns out swapping a '99 Cobra cluster into a '00+ car is NOT a direct swap (for the most part). You can use the gauges, but you need to swap out the large circuit board on the back.

For some reason there is some wiring that goes through the cluster for the rear defrost. On the cars with the defrost button down by the shifter it's the yellow wire with black stripe that goes from the defrost switch into the cluster. Out of the cluster is a black with yellow stripe that goes to the defrost relay.

On the '99 Cobra cluster I had these two wires were unused and connected to ground on the PCB causing the rear defrost to stay on all the time (even with the key off). It also caused the rear defrost fuse to blow under the dash.

The post '99 clusters have some sort of logic circuit in the cluster board that controls the rear defrost. I don't know why though. Maybe the defrost timer is integrated into the cluster on the newer cars. I compared both large circuit boards side-by-side and there are significant differences for these two rear-defrost wires. It's not a simple wiring change.

So, if you want to use a '99 Cobra cluster in a car with the defrost button by the shifter ('00+ I think) you can either:

1) Swap the odometer board AND main circuit board from your original cluster to the Cobra one (ideal)

or

2) Pull the wires at position 9 and 10 (yellow/black and black/yellow) out of the left harness and this will disable the rear defrost.

Riley
 

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good info! I did swap in a 99-01 cobra gauge cluster, never even thought that was the problem
 
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