Rubbing doesn't really do this justice

Gellpak

Member

Nov 28, 2003

147

0

16

Raleigh, NC

Jul 18, 2009

#1

• Jul 18, 2009

• #1

Soooooo, new wheels and tires:

17x8 all around, 4.75" backspacing
235/45/17 front
245/45/17 rear

but, I can't turn my wheels, because as you can see, they run into the inner front lip of my fender. I was going to see about rolling that section of the fender but after looking at it closely I don't think that that would be enough to fix the problem. Help?

 

iskwezm

10 Year Member

May 24, 2005

4,159

20

79

Rowland Heights,California

Jul 18, 2009

#2

• Jul 18, 2009

• #2

is your caster off??? Why isnt the wheel centered in the wheel well???

 

wicked93gs

15 Year Member

Sep 30, 2006

1,198

228

93

Nashville TN

Jul 18, 2009

#3

• Jul 18, 2009

• #3

I was wondering the same thing...what is your spindle center line?(this can be found by measuring from the front of the frame rail under the radiator support to the center of the spindle) or is it possible those are really poor fitting repro fenders?

 

Gellpak

Member

Nov 28, 2003

147

0

16

Raleigh, NC

Jul 18, 2009

#4

• Jul 18, 2009

• #4

wicked93gs said:

I was wondering the same thing...what is your spindle center line?(this can be found by measuring from the front of the frame rail under the radiator support to the center of the spindle) or is it possible those are really poor fitting repro fenders?

Click to expand...

Not sure I measured properly, but about 22 inches.

Camber could be completely wack, since I haven't been driving it / had an alignment since I got it back from the shop after the wreck. Could that be enough to screw up the horizontal position that much?

 

iskwezm

10 Year Member

May 24, 2005

4,159

20

79

Rowland Heights,California

Jul 18, 2009

#5

• Jul 18, 2009

• #5

Gellpak said:

Not sure I measured properly, but about 22 inches.

Camber could be completely wack, since I haven't been driving it / had an alignment since I got it back from the shop after the wreck. Could that be enough to screw up the horizontal position that much?

Click to expand...

Camber is the top of the tire in relation to the top fender lip.Caster is the wheel center line in relation to the fenderwell.How does the car drive?Is it loose or hard to steer,keep straight?

 

Shakin66

Founding Member

Jan 19, 2001

628

1

19

Waycross, Ga / Lake James, NC

Jul 18, 2009

#6

• Jul 18, 2009

• #6

I had to go with 225's because the 245s just wouldnt work.
I was shocked at how far out the 245's propruded. I hope you can get it to work but w/out power steering these 225 are hard enuf.
View attachment 251169

 

Gellpak

Member

Nov 28, 2003

147

0

16

Raleigh, NC

Jul 19, 2009

#7

• Jul 19, 2009

• #7

iskwezm said:

Camber is the top of the tire in relation to the top fender lip.Caster is the wheel center line in relation to the fenderwell.How does the car drive?Is it loose or hard to steer,keep straight?

Click to expand...

It's a little loose, and likes to drift, but I don't have to fight it to keep it going where I want it to.

 

F

ForceFed70

That's why they call it "dope"

Founding Member

Dec 6, 1999

4,818

1

69

BC Canada

Jul 19, 2009

#8

• Jul 19, 2009

• #8

I'm willing to bet that the other side doesn't have this problem.

If that is the case, take your car into a GOOD alignment shop and explain your problem. They can move the wheel back 3/4". Your alignment won't be great (1 wheel is supposed to be ahead of the other) but it's not a big deal. You'll hardly notice it. Especially if they do the same thing to the other side.

 

chris66dad

Member

Dec 19, 2008

167

0

17

Benicia California

Jul 19, 2009

#9

• Jul 19, 2009

• #9

You have way to much NEGATIVE caster.
You need to have it set to POSITIVE 2.5 to 4 degrees (on both sides of the car) and it will center the wheel and make it handle correct. The right and left side should be no more than .25 degrees apart.
Looks like you may also have problems with the tire hitting the lip of the fender. You can install a Vario-Centric Camber Adjuster to bring the wheel in. The kit removes the shims from the UCA (65 and 66 only) and camber is set on the LCA. This effectively pulls the top outside tire edge in 3/8 to 1/2 inch to clear the fender lip.
Mustangs Plus*::*Suspension and Handling*::*Camber & Caster Kits*::*1965-66 Vario-Centric Camber Kit

Good Luck and BE Safe
Ron

 

J

jakstang

New Member

Jun 23, 2006

7

0

0

Jul 19, 2009

#10

• Jul 19, 2009

• #10

Sorry if its off topic but what kind of wheels are those Gellpak?

 

Gellpak

Member

Nov 28, 2003

147

0

16

Raleigh, NC

Jul 21, 2009

#11

• Jul 21, 2009

• #11

ForceFed70]I'm willing to bet that the other side doesn't have this problem. If that is the case said:

Sorry if its off topic but what kind of wheels are those Gellpak?

Click to expand...

MB Wheels Old School:
Wheel Details - Discount Tire Direct

 

T

TT670

Founding Member

Jul 10, 2001

360

9

28

Jul 21, 2009

#12

• Jul 21, 2009

• #12

You'll never center the wheel in the wheelwell on a 65, Ive had 3 and all of them had the wheel in a similar position and not even close to enough adjustment to center it. That being said, those wheels/tires stick out too far, I was able to run 245/17's mounted on 8 inch late model mustang wheels with no spacer(willwood brakes to increase track width) with slight rubbing but the car handled awful, it just didnt track well down the road. I had the front wheels narowed to 7" and now run a 205/50 tire and it handles like a dream.

Ive attached a pic with the 245's on 8 inch wheels in the rear and 205/50s on the narrowed 7's in front, again NO spacers on this car, it uses a wider 67 9" rear axle, willwood brakes on the front.

 

Attachments

• Mustang.webp

  43.9 KB · Views: 355