Yes,.. excepting the jy spindles,.. all parts courtesy of rockauto.com.What size "big brakes" are you going to swap on? Going with 13" front rotors from the SN Cobra's?
When the 6 cylinder Falcons came out in the late 60's there was an article in Hot rod Magazine about a guy that did just what you wrote about. He sawed off the cast on intake manifold and had a flat plate furnace brazed to the head surface where the old manifold had been. That allowed him to build his own long runner 4 barrel carb intake manifold. It's amazing how everything old becomes new again...I tell you,...this is freakin' weird.....I've been looking all day long at doing that very thing. The 6's are like indestructable, w/ 7 main caps,...and forged conn rods from the factory, w/ a dished cast piston that yields a 9:00/1 CR. The head is the problem though w/ a cast log style intake on the same side as the exhaust. I'd have to cut the log style intake and exhaust manifolds off, and build a new intake and exhaust from scratch.
But,...somebody that has a machinist for a friend (like me) and somebody that can fabricate an intake, and exhaust manifold once the old junk is cut away ( like me) could make the engine yield like a conservative 250-300 whp at 15 P.S.I. from a 3.3 liter engine at 5,000 rpm through a blow through carb. ( I've been doing alot of reading today)
Now granted,...some might think that going through all of that just to yield a piddly 250-300 whp is a gigantic waste of time and money. AND,....As tempting as it is to yank that 6 outta there, and replace it w/ GM stuff makes a strong argument on one hand,..while at the same time, the other is saying that I'll get dissed for bastardizing the brand despite the obvious advantages. And quite frankly this has me all in a quandry.
I still bleed blue.
The exterior cosmetic I linked based on the yellow car above is like falling off a log to me:
SN 95 front stuff,...cut stock front coils, w/ Ranger drums & cut coils on back w/ the right 5 lug axles cant be 500.00-700.00 totally to allow me to buy the wheels and tires to make that look happen. A slight window tint on one day, and blacked out bright work the next adds another couple hundred to the total. While I cant be sure till it gets here, the project car looks straight enough from the pics to be able to pull it off.
If I can get the car to even come close to looking like that while I modify the rest (including what I'm gonna do w/ the power train) while driving it back and forth to work will be all worth it to me.
All of this is the very reason I love the hobby. The challenges that come up to make it all work while at the same time serving my need to be different.
I'd trade a dozen terminator Cobras for the chance to be able to do what I'm getting ready to do w/ granny's car.
Well, clearly,.. its already been done before (which is a good thing,...i'd hate to waste all that time for some stupid assed folly)When the 6 cylinder Falcons came out in the late 60's there was an article in Hot rod Magazine about a guy that did just what you wrote about. He sawed off the cast on intake manifold and had a flat plate furnace brazed to the head surface where the old manifold had been. That allowed him to build his own long runner 4 barrel carb intake manifold. It's amazing how everything old becomes new again...
You're probably right. The things were used in just about every passenger car throughout the 60's, and 70's, up until the early 80's. Naturally aspirated, the things are pig's. How ford decided that they needed an even smaller, slower, less powerful piglet to offer at the same time as that one makes me wonder.There's probably a guy in the middle of nowhere that has about 3 250s and they probably all run. The only problem is that he probably doesn't even know what the internet is, has never seen a cell phone, and probably only has 1 rotary phone in his house...on the wall, in the kitchen, by the back door. lol
I looked into putting a 300 into a falcon years ago. I think the problem was block height and the mounts are different?????? Something to check before you rob one out of an F150.You're probably right. The things were used in just about every passenger car throughout the 60's, and 70's, up until the early 80's. Naturally aspirated, the things are pig's. How ford decided that they needed an even smaller, slower, less powerful piglet to offer at the same time as that one makes me wonder.
My wife had a 78 Merc Comet that had one,.. I should be able to find one. Problem is,.. the damn things look just like the stupid 3.3 that is in my Fairmont. The only way to tell them apart,.. is by the number of bolts holding the water pump on,.. and that will probably be covered by a fan,.. pulley,.. and belt every time I go looking.
Ford didn't use a reliable casting number on them to help,....they put a little metal tag like is on a rearend to tell the diff.
(like that little metal tag is still gonna be on 40 years after the fact.)
Its the height that's the main problem. That, and the fact that it can't take any kind of abuse in stock form (read really crappy cast pistons) turbocharging it would be begging for trouble.I looked into putting a 300 into a falcon years ago. I think the problem was block height and the mounts are different?????? Something to check before you rob one out of an F150.
yeah, I thought they were gonna pick it up last Saturday, but that fell through. Still waiting.So there's still no car? Sheesh. That's poor service.
And you are going to turbo the 4 cyl, right?
Nope, I'm firmly in bed w/ the duratec. Its a fraction of the work that would be involved w the i6, and makes 1.5 times power in n/a form at less weight. The fact that its well supported in the after market means I'll be able to do what I want performance wise, w/o having to fabricate jack.As far as the pistons, I'd consider upgrading them before adding much boost to anything. Yes, the hyper whatever pistons take more than cast, but I do not think it is worth the risk past an atmosphere.
The 4 cyl is an interesting idea in the light car. But to quote Tim Allen, "more power!". It you do not turbo the 6, GO V8.
Tjat[/quote]That means I will not be copying when I do this to Grandpa's truck, Diplomat, or an old Falcon. I am sure it will turn out nice whatever you do.
Quote="madmike1157, post: 8751202, member: 162211"]Nope, I'm firmly in bed w/ the duratec. Its a fraction of the work that would be involved w the i6, and makes 1.5 times power in n/a form at less weight. The fact that its well supported in the after market means I'll be able to do what I want performance wise, w/o having to fabricate jack.
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