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jberylec

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This post is for input from people who have installed these actual (or similar) parts please. I've read all the threads and parts websites that everyone else has (and I'm continuing to do so), so now I'm just looking for real world experiences and opinions on the durability, quality, and details of the self-installations...

I have decided on the Street Scene Louvers (Part # 950-70746)
http://www.streetsceneeq.com/product_popup.asp?id=2999&rid=&img=3

and the 3dCarbon 3 piece Ducktail Spoiler (Part # 691021)
http://www.3dcarbon.com/bodykits_GT.htm (about half way down page)

I've got a quote of $1,370.00 total at a semi-local (hour and a half away) custom Mustang shop for the parts, prep, paint, and install.

But I can buy all these parts myself online for WAY less money and have a more local paint shop do the prep & paint. It's all about the bottom dollar, right?!

Can I install all these items myself? Looking for opinions and pictures from those who have done just that. I've read it's all done with 3M tape, so what's the max MPH they'll hold?? I plan on running mid 12's at some point, but that'll probably be it

Thanks much!
 

jberylec

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Hmm.. the title of my thread is displaying wrong after I edited it...
It's supposed to read:
Self Installation? SS Louvers & 3dCarbon Ducktail

Mods, can you fix this please?
 

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Ok, Ok...

Street Scene Louvers (Part # 950-70746)


3dCarbon 3 piece Ducktail Spoiler (Part # 691021)


 

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68torinogt

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its gonna look good.
 

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Thank you

Now if I could just get some real world pictures, rather than the very limited and crappy angled pics put out by either company!

I keep searching and searching forums, and I've found one or two here and there, but never quite the right angle and/or product...
 
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I can't answer all your questions, but I might be able to provide some help. I installed the 3dCarbon single piece spoiler. It was very well finished. Even the guys who painted it commented about its good quality.

It's on there pretty good with bolts and a bunch of 3M industrial strength sticky tape. In fact the OEM spoiler was also on with bolts and sticky tape so I would say that the 3dCarbon piece is about as safe at speed as the OEM piece.

You could do the job yourself except for the painting. Don't skimp on the cost of painting it's not worth trying to save a buck there. Get somebody experienced to do the job.

Just one piece of advice. Get some help from a friend when you remove the factory wing (if you have one). It will not come off easily. I found that out. 3dCarbon gives you some great instructions with color photos. Follow them to the letter, and be careful (I scratched my paint with one of the bolts in the wing).
 

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jberylec said:
Now if I could just get some real world pictures, rather than the very limited and crappy angled pics put out by either company!

I keep searching and searching forums, and I've found one or two here and there, but never quite the right angle and/or product...
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I hope these pics help. If you do elect to install the 3D Carbon spoiler, you will likely need a friend, as this spoiler must be positioned correctly the first time -- once the 3M tape (after application of the adhesion promoter) sticks, the thing is not going to move.




 

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That seems kinda high priced for just those installed and painted. Im getting my SS Gen1 Kit and duckbill wing installed and painting is only going to run me 1500
 

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Great info! Thanks!
That looks real nice on your car!

How did you remove the stock spoiler? I mean as far as the sticky tape goes... solvent, fishing line, other?

I've also decided to get the mirrors taken off and painted, as well as a CDC classic chin spoiler... Any guesses on what I'm looking at for prep & painting all these items?

After further searching and reading I realize it's definately cheaper to buy the parts yourself, have them painted at a local auto paint shop, and install yourself.

PS: I have the 18" Polished Aluminum Bullit-lookin wheels... what do you all think about 18% Platinum Tint (The semi-shiny stuff)? I'm thinking it should be a good match to the wheels and the Windveil color! (Also a good match for some future ghost-silver painted stripes)

So here's the plan:
SS Louvers
3dCarbon Ducktail
CDC Classic Chin Spoiler
Painted Mirrors

All painted Windveil Blue and installed on my babay...


Sorry for the image size, didnt know how to post it a little smaller!
 

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jberylec said:
Great info! Thanks!
How did you remove the stock spoiler? I mean as far as the sticky tape goes... solvent, fishing line, other?

I've also decided to get the mirrors taken off and painted, as well as a CDC classic chin spoiler... Any guesses on what I'm looking at for prep & painting all these items?

After further searching and reading I realize it's definately cheaper to buy the parts yourself, have them painted at a local auto paint shop, and install yourself.
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I used an exacto knife to carefully cut away at the 3M tape while a friend gently pulled up on the factory spoiler. 3D Carbon's spoiler fastens with the same 3M tape and covers the factory spoiler holes. I believe you wanted to know if the tape will hold the spoiler on at speed -- your question will be answered when you go to try to remove the factory spoiler -- have fun getting the tape off.

As for installation, this particular spoiler will flex and must be conformed to the curvature of the decklid, meaning to get it to look right pressure must be put on both ends of the center piece of the spoiler -- I do not recommend you try to do this by yourself. Your best bet is to let the body shop you choose to do the painting do the ducktail install.

Oh, and do not pay the $1,370 to get a spoiler done -- that's insane. Although I'm not a paint and body person, I did have a chance to speak to one, and he said just paint and prep should be no more than $175 (I paid $125). As far as installation, that should not be that much more. Good luck, and post pics when it's done.
 

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White05GT said:
I used an exacto knife to carefully cut away at the 3M tape while a friend gently pulled up on the factory spoiler. 3D Carbon's spoiler fastens with the same 3M tape and covers the factory spoiler holes. I believe you wanted to know if the tape will hold the spoiler on at speed -- your question will be answered when you go to try to remove the factory spoiler -- have fun getting the tape off.

As for installation, this particular spoiler will flex and must be conformed to the curvature of the decklid, meaning to get it to look right pressure must be put on both ends of the center piece of the spoiler -- I do not recommend you try to do this by yourself. Your best bet is to let the body shop you choose to do the painting do the ducktail install.

Oh, and do not pay the $1,370 to get a spoiler done -- that's insane. Although I'm not a paint and body person, I did have a chance to speak to one, and he said just paint and prep should be no more than $175 (I paid $125). As far as installation, that should not be that much more. Good luck, and post pics when it's done.
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Any tips on removing the old tape? Also, that $1370 was for parts, prep, paint, & install for not only the ducktail but the louvers and chin spoiler too...

So maybe it's not that bad a deal? Especially with what you just said about the duck install
 

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Will kinda give it a real cool retro spice up. Should look great.
 
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jberylec said:
This post is for input from people who have installed these actual (or similar) parts please. I've read all the threads and parts websites that everyone else has (and I'm continuing to do so), so now I'm just looking for real world experiences and opinions on the durability, quality, and details of the self-installations...Thanks much!
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I have the SS Gen2 louvers. I purchased them pre-painted (from SS on Ebay). The install was pretty easy. You're provided a small roll of 3M double-sided tape, and some adheasive promotor.

I cut the 3M tape into little sections and placed it on the louvers as needed. I was careful to leave a small opening between the tape strips which allows water to drain away (rain, car washing, etc.).

Also, I masked all the finished/painted areas of the louvers, and painted the inside areas flat black. It looks 100% better from inside the car. I went to the store and bought a small can of flat black model paint.

::Installation::
1) Make sure you have the correct louver for each window. They're shaped a little different, if I recall.

2) Clean the windows with some Dish soap to remove dirt, wax, etc. Dry well.

3) Remove the stickers from the 3M tape, line it up, and press along the edges.

Done. Takes about fifteen minutes, and $4-5 for the can of flat black.
 
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Any tips on removing the old tape?
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WD-40 let soak in for a minute then use fingernail and soft cloth. It will not harm the paint.
 
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jberylec said:
Hmm.. the title of my thread is displaying wrong after I edited it...
It's supposed to read:
Self Installation? SS Louvers & 3dCarbon Ducktail

Mods, can you fix this please?
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Fixored
 

jberylec

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Thank you! Everyone is awesome here

Got a link to the SS ebay store? Pre-painted sounds awesome, as long as their color matching is perfect...
 
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jberylec said:
Thank you! Everyone is awesome here

Got a link to the SS ebay store? Pre-painted sounds awesome, as long as their color matching is perfect...
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Like this. I'm pretty sure this is the same guy I bought mine from.. They use the same factory paint codes. He explains it in the post. Have a look

Gen 1 Louvers:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-0...019QQitemZ290016413613QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Gen 2 Louvers:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-0...019QQitemZ290017942027QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
 

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I am going with the Cervin's ducktail, but after seeing the 2007 rearlid spoiler I am calling Ford Monday for a price.
 

jberylec

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Thank you litlsi. I just dont know about the "painted items cannot be returned" issue. What if the color isn't a perfect match, them I'm stuck having them repainted

ShowYa06 said:
I am going with the Cervin's ducktail, but after seeing the 2007 rearlid spoiler I am calling Ford Monday for a price.
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You talking about the GT500? Or the regular Mustang?
Link?
 
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