Fox sn95 donor for foxbody

Sorry dude but I see this as a bridge to nowhere project. There are things that seem doable, and there are things that are just screaming Don't!

#1. What exactly is " that gutted look?" ( I'll get back to this)

#2. Do you honestly have the skill set to swap out a completely different drivetrain that will require a different ECU to run it, and do you have the technical know how to get around the factory anti-theft? If you don't, have you ever built something as complicated as a kit built ecu? Do you have the money in your budget to pay the guy that is gonna have to help you get it running? This would be a time to honestly answer that question for yourself.
#3. The " target" car is sitting outside, where is the donor car gonna go? If the stated progress calendar is "slowly but surely" just to get the target car ready for the swap stuff,...how long do you think it'll take when you have to start figuring all of this sht out when the donor car arrives?
#4. The car will need a different fuel system, the 96 tank will not swap.
#5. The 96 front end, and rear are gonna hang so far out of the body panels ( as my man @90sickfox stated,.......1.5" total) it's gonna look really bad, and invite all kinds of body rub. There's a reason an SN 95 car looks "fat", it's to accommodate the wider track width.
#6. The dash conversion is a 4 out of 5 on the difficulty scale and again, as stated already, even after you get it to fit, and figure out a method to hold it securely, it still only works up until you have to figure out how to deal with the door panel match.
What about the heater that's sposed to also fit underneath?
#7. I've swapped a 2v 4.6 into a fox. The stock exhaust manifold on the driver side doesn't fit. You will have to swap over the brakes to hydroboost, or go manual. It's gonna force you to use either an aftermarket k member that works in the fox, or use that k member that came in the donor.

Again,...not afraid to be painfully honest here..the best laid plans require more than a " can do" attitude,..If you don't have the time, place, or aquired skill set to do some of the more complicated aspects of this swap, you are dooming yourself to have two junk cars sitting in limbo for however long it takes you to call a wrecker. If it is your plan to bail on the aspects required to do it right, and work on going after the " gutted look", please send that money to charity instead, because it's the same as throwing it straight into a trash can.

You stated at the onset that this was a track car, but in a later update stated that your wife dogged that plan when you need to make it a commuter capable car.. So,..are you gonna drive a gutted car back and forth to work?

A nicely done SN swapped fox will return about .50 for every dollar spent on it.

A gutted fox with a half assed SN95 swap will be a red flag to any future buyer, and at present, your money and time invested based on your stated build plan is probably running between .25-.30 cents for every dollar you spend. I'd imagine that you might wanna think about doing something to save one car or the other in their present states, unless you just like throwing money away.
 
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Sorry dude but I see this as a bridge to nowhere project. There are things that seem doable, and there are things that are just screaming Don't!

#1. What exactly is " that gutted look?" ( I'll get back to this)

#2. Do you honestly have the skill set to swap out a completely different drivetrain that will require a different ECU to run it, and do you have the technical know how to get around the factory anti-theft? If you don't, have you ever built something as complicated as a kit built ecu? Do you have the money in your budget to pay the guy that is gonna have to help you get it running? This would be a time to honestly answer that question for yourself.
#3. The " target" car is sitting outside, where is the donor car gonna go? If the stated progress calendar is "slowly but surely" just to get the target car ready for the swap stuff,...how long do you think it'll take when you have to start figuring all of this sht out when the donor car arrives?
#4. The car will need a different fuel system, the 96 tank will not swap.
#5. The 96 front end, and rear are gonna hang so far out of the body panels ( as my man @90sickfox stated,.......1.5" total) it's gonna look really bad, and invite all kinds of body rub. There's a reason an SN 95 car looks "fat", it's to accommodate the wider track width.
#6. The dash conversion is a 4 out of 5 on the difficulty scale and again, as stated already, even after you get it to fit, and figure out a method to hold it securely, it still only works up until you have to figure out how to deal with the door panel match.
What about the heater that's sposed to also fit underneath?
#7. I've swapped a 2v 4.6 into a fox. The stock exhaust manifold on the driver side doesn't fit. You will have to swap over the brakes to hydroboost, or go manual. It's gonna force you to use either an aftermarket k member that works in the fox, or use that k member that came in the donor.

Again,...not afraid to be painfully honest here..the best laid plans require more than a " can do" attitude,..If you don't have the time, place, or aquired skill set to do some of the more complicated aspects of this swap, you are dooming yourself to have two junk cars sitting in limbo for however long it takes you to call a wrecker. If it is your plan to bail on the aspects required to do it right, and work on going after the " gutted look", please send that money to charity instead, because it's the same as throwing it straight into a trash can.

You stated at the onset that this was a track car, but in a later update stated that your wife dogged that plan when you need to make it a commuter capable car.. So,..are you gonna drive a gutted car back and forth to work?

A nicely done SN swapped fox will return about .50 for every dollar spent on it.

A gutted fox with a half assed SN95 swap will be a red flag to any future buyer, and at present, your money and time invested based on your stated build plan is probably running between .25-.30 cents for every dollar you spend. I'd imagine that you might wanna think about doing something to save one car or the other in their present states, unless you just like throwing money away.
I’m going to comment on this first but I’ve never said anything about resale value neither do I care about it
#1 “gutted” no interior except the seats and whatever is necessary to drive the car
#2 no I personally do not, but I have friends with the know how and before this project was thought about I got their support to help me.
#3 I have garage space to put the Fox in once I get it running, the donor car once I’ve stripped it of necessary parts will go back to the junkyard I picked it up from
#4 what kind of fuel system will it need, where can I source it?
#5 I want it wider so I can fit the kind of wheels I like, rolling fenders or putting fender flares will fix that problem. Which is what I want.
#6 never thought about using the sn95 dash up until the point of needing an aftermarket Ecu, never wanted the door panels to go over either.
#7 I was planning to switch the K member with the sn95s anyway, it’s a 4banger and wouldn’t work for the swap.
It’s cool to be brutally honest, I appreciate your opinion on the matter since you’ve done the swap before. YOU know what I’m getting myself into. I never wanted a show car or a full resto. I WANT A HALF ASSED JOB, simply for the seat time. I don’t plan on selling this car to anybody for any reason I’m going to drive it till the wheels fall off and do it all over again if I can fix it. Yes there are easier ways to go about this goal but this is what I have. If you have the know how share it with me otherwise please keep your opinion to yourself because you saying not to do it without having some actual information to back it up isn’t helping. Thank you for your time and hopefully I can get some of that know how you got to get this swap done.
 
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a picture says a thousand words.
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The forest represents what both cars used to be....before you blew them away.
Save your money..im betting on one car to place in the junkyard, and the other to show on the tow hook of a wrecker.
 
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a picture says a thousand words.
giphy.gif


The forest represents what both cars used to be....before you blew them away.
Save your money..im betting on one car to place in the junkyard, and the other to show on the tow hook of a wrecker.
To be honest all I saw was one tree fall, sooo I’d say not that bad lmao. Also that was a short video(gif) not a picture.:doh:
 
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To be honest all I saw was one tree fall, sooo I’d say not that bad lmao. Also that was a short video(gif) not a picture.:doh:

The odds of you getting anything running out of this project will make some people rich if it were posted on a board in Vegas.
It'll be ever greater odds that it runs more than a month.
I'm thinking 200-1
 
How long did your swap run for?
And that relates in what way to anything you plan to do ?

Do you live in Council Bluffs, Ia.?

Bill,...is this you?
Aw C'mon Bill,...remember your 75 Nova,..the one that you blew up twice, ...the one that wouldn't fall out of a tree after you got it running,....the one that you called the junk yard to come and haul off after spending $10,000 + on.....

C'mon Bill,...what about your wife and family?
 
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And that relates in what way to anything you plan to do ?
well you said you’ve done this swap before, I don’t know if you’re just saying that my swap will only run for a month but if you got yours to run for more than a month I’d say my odds are more like 100-1 but enough jokes and jabbing at each other. If you one day you woke up and had all the knowledge of mustangs then cool for you bro but if you didn’t then help me learn too. That’s all I’m trying to do here if you don’t want to do that than why are you apart of this forum.
 
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well you said you’ve done this swap before, I don’t know if you’re just saying that my swap will only run for a month but if you got yours to run for more than a month I’d say my odds are more like 100-1 but enough jokes and jabbing at each other. If you one day you woke up and had all the knowledge of mustangs then cool for you bro but if you didn’t then help me learn too. That’s all I’m trying to do here if you don’t want to do that than why are you apart of this forum.

And that's fine by me.

So then...Car craft 101. ( Even though I said this in my first reply)

You cannot expect to run before you can crawl. If you have the attitude that "I can do this", then that is half the battle. Unfortunately, all the want in the world won't change the reality when after attempting it you find out that you can't do this....yet.

Car projects are best bit off in small chunks if you can ever expect them to get done. Taking on the monster that you are attempting will take somebody working on it weekends while working another job months, if not years. And that is based on having the skills and money to get the stuff done by the time your able to get around to it.

If one or the other is missing, then add even more time and money to the mix. Add in for weather, exposure, and darkness because the cars are outside, add even more time. Lastly add in the " what if/when" factor, and pile on even more time.

( what if it don't work when I .......)

Many a project much smaller in scope has had everything in place that I rattled off, and the "what if when" kills it every time.
And then BOOM! It's broke, burned, shorted,silent, and............sold off or towed off.

Nobody can count on a web forum to tell you how to wire a car with an engine swap. No web forum can teach you to have pride in your work, or pay attention to detail when your stated intention is to not have any. No web forum is gonna be able to teach you how to fabricate sht when it simply won't fit because it was never intended to. You will not get help that you need when you more or less state that "I'm gonna gut out, and hag out a fox mustang, help me do it"

Knowing what I now know, I cannot fathom attempting a total drivetrain swap on slightly dissimilar cars including the harnesses as a first project for me. Back then, It was all I could do to take the existing engine out and rebuild it.

I believe you are attempting a free solo skydive having never jumped out of a plane before...hopefully you won't hit the ground at 125 mph.

And lastly...there is an engine swap thread in this forum already. Nobody here is gonna help you find stuff if you don't bother to look.
But if you did....
This one about a half dozen other threads detailing what others have done before.
 
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And that's fine by me.

So then...Car craft 101. ( Even though I said this in my first reply)

You cannot expect to run before you can crawl. If you have the attitude that "I can do this", then that is half the battle. Unfortunately, all the want in the world won't change the reality when after attempting it you find out that you can't do this....yet.

Car projects are best bit off in small chunks if you can ever expect them to get done. Taking on the monster that you are attempting will take somebody working on it weekends while working another job months, if not years. And that is based on having the skills and money to get the stuff done by the time your able to get around to it.

If one or the other is missing, then add even more time and money to the mix. Add in for weather, exposure, and darkness because the cars are outside, add even more time. Lastly add in the " what if/when" factor, and pile on even more time.

( what if it don't work when I .......)

Many a project much smaller in scope has had everything in place that I rattled off, and the "what if when" kills it every time.
And then BOOM! It's broke, burned, shorted,silent, and............sold off or towed off.

Nobody can count on a web forum to tell you how to wire a car with an engine swap. No web forum can teach you to have pride in your work, or pay attention to detail when your stated intention is to not have any. No web forum is gonna be able to teach you how to fabricate sht when it simply won't fit because it was never intended to. You will not get help that you need when you more or less state that "I'm gonna gut out, and hag out a fox mustang, help me do it"

Knowing what I now know, I cannot fathom attempting a total drivetrain swap on slightly dissimilar cars including the harnesses as a first project for me. Back then, It was all I could do to take the existing engine out and rebuild it.

I believe you are attempting a free solo skydive having never jumped out of a plane before...hopefully you won't hit the ground at 125 mph.
Hopefully I don’t, but everything you just stated I could learn and this would be a great project to learn all of that. I may not have the experience or equipment that you or other people that have tackled this swap but this is not the end goal. I’m not going to go deeper on that but this is step 1 of a bigger plan. If you can help with what information you do want to give id appreciate if not, thank you for your advice.
 
Hopefully I don’t, but everything you just stated I could learn and this would be a great project to learn all of that. I may not have the experience or equipment that you or other people that have tackled this swap but this is not the end goal. I’m not going to go deeper on that but this is step 1 of a bigger plan. If you can help with what information you do want to give id appreciate if not, thank you for your advice.
Reread the last line.
 
Got the dash out of the foxbody, pretty easy. Watched a video from LMR and they cover just about everything. Next will be to strip away everything under the dash and get the carpet out. Car was a rats nest before so I want to take everything out.
 
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Don't mind mike, he has been around long enough to see a lot of projects fall by the wayside or sit in a state of perpetual stagnation because the owner either lacked funds or the will to resolve problems that occur during a build.
I say 'get after it' and document it here, I for one am rooting for ya! Keep it going.
 
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Don't mind mike, he has been around long enough to see a lot of projects fall by the wayside or sit in a state of perpetual stagnation because the owner either lacked funds or the will to resolve problems that occur during a build.
I say 'get after it' and document it here, I for one am rooting for ya! Keep it going.
Thanks man, I understand. A little negativity never hurt nobody, I’m just glad he pointed me in the right direction. I’m glad to be apart of the community