Snow Boost Cooler N/A

[damacman]

I didn't get much of a chance to play with this thing at the track last time out as I blew up my clutch on the first run, but I can give some feedback now that my new clutch is broken in. I love it!

Water / methanol injection is a pretty old idea. Sure works great here in Phoenix where we have VERY low humidity. Plus, an added benefit is that the mixture keeps the combustion chambers super clean. My timing is still set at 14 degrees, I'm going to play with bumping that up a little bit when I get it on the dyno. I'm using windshield washer fluid -- $1.07 a gallon and have yet to use a half tank of the stuff.

It'll be September before I can get back to the track, but I'll post results then.

 

[stangman]

ok i give, you have me curious. how does this thing work & would it be worth it? i know you are about to get to the dyno with it, so you can't say for sure, but can you actually feel a difference in power?

 

[S.D.-Stangman]

subscribing

 

[Defleshed]

lol sounds cool

 

[billyfe390]

ok i give, you have me curious. how does this thing work & would it be worth it? i know you are about to get to the dyno with it, so you can't say for sure, but can you actually feel a difference in power?

It cools the intake charge and the sharp spots in the chamber. Basically you are injecting water and alcohol(windshield washer fluid) into the intake. If you have a high compression or blown motor it removes detonation without running expensive ass race fuel. If you have a stock N/A car you probably wont notice much but with a blown application or a highly modified one with an aggressive tune yeah you will notice alot especially in your wallet.

 

[stang976]

yea i was looking into that...but it is only for the track no? i though of it as a "poor man's intercooler" but i then was told that you cant just drive around with the thing on a daily driver activated

 

[billyfe390]

yea i was looking into that...but it is only for the track no? i though of it as a "poor man's intercooler" but i then was told that you cant just drive around with the thing on a daily driver activated

You only run it when you are WOT. Yeah it is kinda the poor mans intercooler but it works and works well.

 

[BullittStangV8]

will you gain any hp while running N/A? does anyone have any dyno proof? or even SOTP proof? it doesnt seem like a bad idea at all to me. Cooler= more power.
Mike

 

[billyfe390]

will you gain any hp while running N/A? does anyone have any dyno proof? or even SOTP proof? it doesnt seem like a bad idea at all to me. Cooler= more power.
Mike

You may find one or two guys using it but in reality most people dont use it. I think the biggest gains are attributed to being able to run the engine a tad leaner with more timing and you dont have to use race fuel to prevent the detonation.

 

[BullittStangV8]

i know that most users use it for boosted applications, or very high compression. i was just curious if there would be worthy gains for cars with near stock timing. (meaning would it cool the intake temp enough to gain hp, not nessesary to allow you to run more timing)
MIke

 

[billyfe390]

i know that most users use it for boosted applications, or very high compression. i was just curious if there would be worthy gains for cars with near stock timing. (meaning would it cool the intake temp enough to gain hp, not nessesary to allow you to run more timing)
MIke

I doubt it would do much for a stock application.

 

[Blk03GT]

It takes out more heat that a intercooler does.

Yes, it's cheaper to purch, but it's also more effic.

 

[damacman]

Wow! Lots of mis-information in this thread so far. I'll tell you what I know.

How it works: The mixture cools the intake charge to the point that your vehicle will run like it's always a 60 degree night with typical humidity. [Your vehicle needs zero modifications to perform better with the right climate.] Bonus for us desert folk where sand is more common than humidity!

Benefits: Again, a benefit is that the mixture keeps the combustion chambers super clean so that carbon build up or deposits from fuel additives are a non-issue. Blk03GT is right, this unit is far more effective at cooling the intake charge than an intercooler.

When it works: At WOT only, triggered by a simple vacuum switch. So, you can drive around town with it on all day long and the kit does nada until you floor the gas pedal.

Adding Timing (and possibly hp): The mixture helps to eliminate detonation so that you can add timing. I'll need to get to the dyno before I do this to see what kind of effect it has on hp and tq.

SOTP Meter: After installing the kit using too big of a jet and making a pass or two where it was a little sluggish, I turned the kit off and made a pass without it. Holy cow! My car has never run better - traction in 1st was a big challenge, it was punishing the tires on the 1-2 and kicking the ass end out on the 2-3. After a few passes like this (grin), I thought I smelled my clutch. (Nah, couldn't be I thought . . . ) I knew I had to try the smaller jet, and fine tune it a little bit before going to the track the next night.

Results: This apparently was enough to force my stock clutch into early retirement. Now that I have replaced my clutch, and further tuned the kit, it runs like a raped ape.

My results may not be typical unless you live in a similar climate. So far, that is what I know. My vehicle is obviously N/A with lots of bolt ons. I'd be interested to hear any further feedback.

 

[brian98gt]

just curious, will this work with an 03 cobra

 

[damacman]

sure would, probably with excellent results.

 

[brian98gt]

i e-mailed the company and they responded saying that it would work with the 03 cobra. how is the install and how long did it take. what did it involve

 

[damacman]

It's pretty straight-forward. Plan on extending the wiring harnesses quite a bit for a nice clean install, so if you don't already have a soldering iron, heat-shrink, and a heat gun you're gonna' need 'em. The reservoir is kinda' tricky to get under the hood. After a few hours of head-scratching, I found a spot for mine just in front of the radiator -- I just slid it up from the bottom with the mounting tabs pointing forward and was able to anchor it very solidly. It BARELY fit. Only drag is that you have to remove the black plastic cover that the hood latch snaps into (4 plastic screws) to refill it. I don't know if the Cobra has the same room in there as the GT.

btw, how you like your plasma booster?

 

[brian98gt]

did the kit come with specificdirections for your make and model, or is it just generic directions. there is not much room for anything in the cobra, but i'm sure someone has installed it with success. thanks for the info

 

[damacman]

generic, I got the NA kit -- you'll probably get either the Stage 1 or Stage 2 boost kits though. Mine has no boost controller, etc.

 

[mustangt562]

Great info

Im going to get the kit myself. Hey I was wondering if you could post picks of where you mounted the bottle and the pump. My engine is tight as He!! and im scratching my head as to where to put the darn thing. thanks