yeah, i use to have them myself.....everytime you would drive "aggresively", everytime you banged the gears, you would hear loud "slap" coming from them, they were to aggresive, i thought they were gonna rip off my tq boxes......they have solid bushings instead of teh urethane ones that the other control arms come with....they would sqeak alot as well.....the car would "lift" at take off instead of the "squat" it does with other lower control arms