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Stock V/C's with 1.7 RR's

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KBCobra95

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Is there any possible way to make my stock cobra valve covers to work with some trickflow 1.7 stud mount rockers on afr 165 heads? How much and where would I need to grind/ bang out? I have a kenne bell and the fox valve covers hit the bottom of the supercharger. Using a spacer make the S/C hit the hood. Please help! God Bless! Andrew
 

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considering your car came stock with 1.7s they should fit with no modification, but i'm not positive/
 

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DDSTANG94 said:
considering your car came stock with 1.7s they should fit with no modification, but i'm not positive/
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the only thing with that is the cobra 1.7's are pedestal mount.

what is on the car now? i dont think stud anything is going to fit with stock vc's. i had to modify the baffle on my fox vc's just to make my stud 1.6's to fit
 

Hef5.0weisen

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Ever come up with a solution?
I'm "searching" for similar info...
 

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i wonder if anyone has tried the comp pro magnum 1.7s? i have some 1.6s and they fit under my stock covers....
 

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I put the stockers back on with the ford VC gaskets with the metal reinforcement. Had to cut out baffle on pass. side. Worked fine. But decided to go different route. At least I know it is possible now.
 

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So, stock V/C's,with a little modification are fine with 1.7 stud mounts...and the KB. I have found plenty of debate over cobra and gt v/c's being different, even found a pic from RIO50 with a photo of both, look the same to me, but thats a photo. I'm looking at Edelbrock's, and 1.7's, lot of searching raised questions of fitting all this together, especially with the KB. Out of curiosity, why the Fox V/C's, looks?
I suppose I should be looking for the height of the heads, even with the stockers there isn't much room between the V/C and the bottom of the KB. I'm looking at piecing together a similar combo...Edelbrock performers, 2031, 1.7's, trying to find a Holley systemaxx 1 lower (I have the 1.5 KB), but may use a ported stocker, 42's, LMAF and such...buddy of mine has Eddy's, and a KB on a fox body, I should go take some measuerments, except he is in the desert for a few months
thanks and good luck
the search function on here is great!
 

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i have these (part #HLY-241-81), and they seem to have more room in the corners, but they are stock height, according to the summit info page. might be worth checking out ...

 

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always remember fox valve covers work well with rr's and are very cheap on ebay
 

final5-0

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Notice Andrew's Q was about ... Studs not Peds
Studs usually are larger

Notice different heads have been talked about here
and
There can be differences between them

You also have differences between the different lines of intakes. It
has been my observation the Edelbrock's offer more room than the
OEM Cobra/TFS line of intakes.

You also have different issues between OEM SN tb mount
and
Fox tb conversion mount

The Q was asked about why so many use Fox VC's
Simply Put ... They work

Think about ...........
For years before our cars came along ..........
After Market folk made their parts for Stangs with Fox VC's

I run stud mount Scorpions which are larger than most other RR's.
I run Fox VC's with just a small mount of modification needed.
I run no spacer with the elbow tb mount

If you want ALL the VC install details ... I've posted it several times
here and over at the Corral.

Now ... all my info does not pertain to KB use.

Andrew ... Use Don 95Vert in a search on the Corral. He has posted
tons of reliable info on KB's with a 94-95 application.

I know we got several 94-95 KB users here as well

You will just have to search out the answer. You are gonna find
most the info will be about peds however.

Is the clearance issue with the height of the studs or the
rocker ends

Grady
 

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how the hell did you get stud anything to fit under stock vc's?
 

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Maybe, its certain RR's? Different folks may get different results. But they somehow fit on mine. I never started so maybe the RR's were lined up just right? That don't make sense though.
 

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I have 1.7's under stock covers..

no idea what brand though. They were on when i got the car. Im guessing they are from an old motor my buddy had in his shop.
 

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You two guys are talking about S T U D mount RR's ... Right

I would have never thought any stud RR's would
fit under the tiny OEM VC's

Grady
 

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my stud mount 1.6 pro magnums fit under my stock valve covers. maybe the afr valve cover ridges are higher than others ... ?
 

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Well for example on my case stock valve covers didnt fit with the stud 1.6 rr on the 165´s what it did to solve it as a quick solution, was to buy 2 sets of cork "shame" gaskets and glue them together with high temp silicon and worked so well that i am still impressed they have hold together for a long time wihout any kind of leak.
just my .02 c.

Ohh and BTW they dont even look bad, if looks are a concern to you
 

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which rockers are they and where were they hitting?
 

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BlackVert said:
which rockers are they and where were they hitting?
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Sorry if the question was not for me , but the rockers are comp. and the rockers themself where not hiting it was clearance with the stud nut.
 

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This may be true. Other heads may not have a ridge as tall as AFr's

BlackVert said:
my stud mount 1.6 pro magnums fit under my stock valve covers. maybe the afr valve cover ridges are higher than others ... ?
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the clearance problems i have noticed have not been the rocker. the stud has been the problem for me, but thats with the fox body vc's. with that said, it HAS to be in the head design because on my tw's there is no way a stock vc would ever work with stud rr's.
 
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