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When you say you weren't impressed with the Speed what was it?
 

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He ran 13.5's at 106mph i think.
 

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I've seen some on the ls cars and I liked them. For 3800 I'd do it but that's me.
 
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the STS kits are praised by the LS1/LS2 guys. the new GTOs are getting 500-800 HP to the wheels. they are using single turbos, dont recall what size though. they CAN do very well, i've been kinda looking into it myself... kinda.

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For 3800 i would do it. Just because of the type of future potential a turbo car has. If its not fast enough, build the block and turn up the boost and the numbers will really jump up. Its more efficient that any type of supercharger out there
 
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Ok so here is an update talked to the guy more went and saw a truck the kit was on. This is a universal kit he is planning on installing. It will be about 3800 with a basic tune. It doesn't come with fuel pump or injectors. Dyno tuning will be about 700 extra. Does this sound like a decient deal? Also how much HP can a stock fuel pump and injectors handle?
 

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fright88 said:
Ok so here is an update talked to the guy more went and saw a truck the kit was on. This is a universal kit he is planning on installing. It will be about 3800 with a basic tune. It doesn't come with fuel pump or injectors. Dyno tuning will be about 700 extra. Does this sound like a decient deal? Also how much HP can a stock fuel pump and injectors handle?
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That's more like it....I knew $3,800 complete with install and tune sounded too good to be true. The stock pump and injectors won't cut it for any forced incution application. You're going to want to pick yourself up a set of 42lb/hr injectors and at the very least a Ford Focus Fuel pump, so be prepared to tack on another $450-$500 to the cost. Also, $700 for dyno tuning is retarded. This can only lead me to believe that the kit also does not come with any sort of EEC tuner or software and he's tacking it onto the price of the dyno tune as well.

So, what does that leave us with.....about $5,000 total cost for an "experimental" (since it's obviously not made for your particular car) one off kit.

It's your money, but if it were my choice, I'd buy one of the Mongoose kits and still have over $1,000 left over sitting in my pocket, or start saving for a proven turbo set up that's built for your car and that makes real power!



.....your choice.
 
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Good point on the summay. I am now leaning very heavily towards the mongoose kit/
 

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Before you start leaning too heavily towards making huge amounts of power. Keep in mind that you're going to want to address the sub-par internals of the stock short block first before too long. I wouldn't plan on venturing too far past the 400rwhp mark without doing so. If you went with the base Mongoose Vortech kit, you could hover around that figure without killing the stock bottom end and it would give you time to start saving for a tougher rotating assembly and upgrades to the kit for when the time came to start making power.

Before someone chimes in….yes, he could run the turbo kit at lower boost levels for the time being as well until he was able to afford stronger internal components, but that still doesn’t change its initial $5,000 price tag.
 

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I would just run one of the mongoose kit. this guys price is starting to go up and having all that extra pluming of the remote kit would anoy me a bit. I you run the vortech kit at only 8psi you won't need to upgrade the internals. at that power level as long as you are tuned good and don't rev it to hard the engine will live.

if you install the mongoose kit yourslef you are looking at like 3700-3800 and then you just have to go buy some dynot time to verify the tune.

I mean for 4k max you will be running ~350-370hp.

you could also consider buying the novi kit if you wanted to upgrade the motor down the road but I think you can run the vortech kit to 500hp and that is a decent about for a street car.

or if you want a flater boost curve like a turbo kit run a twin screw. you can pick up the kb 1.7L 6psi kit for like $3800. little less peak hp but more low end torque. I think the kits run similar times down the 1320.
 
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