TFS Stage 1 cam with stock heads

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hi,

I have an explorer intake, 1.7 crane rockers, full mac exhaust, 3.73's, crane ignition...is it worth it to change the stock cam to a tfs stage 1? I have one i picked up for cheap...just curious if it's worth it to make the swap. Heads are stock and will be for awhile. Other mods in signature below. thnx

 

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Don't waste your money. If anything get a set of heads before a cam. The stock heads are a major bottle neck. The stock cam is actually pretty good!

 

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GTOreturns said:

Don't waste your money. If anything get a set of heads before a cam. The stock heads are a major bottle neck. The stock cam is actually pretty good!

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+1 .....not to mention, your stock springs won't handle a tfs with 1.7 rockers

 

Dino Dino Bambino

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Agree with the last two posts. Don't bother swapping cams when you have unported stock heads. Better to swap heads first. Stock cam with 1.7 RR's is pretty stout anyway.

 

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I swapped to the TFS1 when my motor was out, nothing more than it and some headers and it ran like a champ! I swapped the valve springs out as well which wasnt that big a deal. If you plan on swappin heads later on, do it then cause then you wont spend money on springs that wont be used long.
Matt

 

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I've seen stock-cam builds make almost 400hp (crank) NA. Swapping to an aftermarket cam for anything but the lopey idle with stock heads is futile... You might see a whopping 5hp.

Now if you had aftermarket heads- that's a different story.

 

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thanks for the feedback. I've decided to get a set of gt40p heads with ugraded valve springs. It should match well with the explorer intake, crane 1.7s, and TFS stage 1. Hope to have installed in a few weeks. thnks.

 

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If you get the "P" heads the #7 and#6 sparks plugs are a pain in the a$$ to get to. #7 is impossible and you better get some plug wire insulators and I learned this from experience! Just my .02

 

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flyby84 said:

If you get the "P" heads the #7 and#6 sparks plugs are a pain in the a$$ to get to. #7 is impossible and you better get some plug wire insulators and I learned this from experience! Just my .02

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It all depends on what headers you're using.

 

flyby84

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Yeah I know but if he is using the ones in his sig he will run into the same ordeal I did! But the P specific header is the way to go if you can afford them!

 

85_SS_302_Coupe

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Yeah if he uses the shorties he probably won't be able to even bolt them on without hitting the plugs. Long tubes on the other hand will be ok.

 

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I used the stock HO cam with ported heads on a fresh build and the car was pretty stout with that setup. I installed a Ford Racing cam and it did boost performance but it differnt ways. I wish I went with the TFS cam!

 

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I had to have a plug socket "fashioned" to change the plugs now but other than buying wire insulators that is the only problems I have ran into with the shorties on the P heads!

 

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flyby84 said:

Yeah I know but if he is using the ones in his sig he will run into the same ordeal I did! But the P specific header is the way to go if you can afford them!

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I just updated my sig. I have motorsport headers now. I had them swapped out about 2 months ago.