Throttle response delay and hanging idle...

ARTTII

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I have a 93 lx 5.0 mass air EFI conversion that I'm putting together. Problem I'm experiencing (yesterday was the first I started the engine) is a second or so delay in throttle response from when you hit the gas pedal to when the engine rev's up and then you have the same second or so after you are off the throttle for the RPMs to return back to idle - anyone ever heard of this before?

Thanks for any help!
 
OK for the vacuum leaks, where all do I need to check? Anything past the MAF I assume? I have only had carb'ed Mustangs before, this is my first EFI application.

This is driving me crazy that I can't figure it out, I'm holding off on driving the car until I can figure it out because this is almost a safety issue at this point...

Thanks for the help
 
Starting fluid is supposed to work well for finding vac leaks. Check all vac lines that come off the intake.

You need to also set your tps at idle. This will only cause problems if you are way off the .9x volt setting that is recommended.

Don't give up on efi just yet. :)

jason
 
People use different methods, almost none of which will I endorse since they can lead to fires (which is not to say I dont do them. Do as I say, not as I do. :D ).

If you have a vacuum gauge, look for 18-20" of vac at idle.

Some people use smoke machines and other inventive means to find leaks.

It should be said to pull codes (if you can) first.

Good luck.
 
-I'd check the timing with the SpOUT connector removed. The computer automatically re-times the car, but if it is off it's base domain, then it will be out of range in certain spots, as in, unable to retard further, or unable to advance further. 13 degrees is a safe spot for a car that's misbehaving, go to 15 degrees when you get everything else figured out.

-then check the tps voltage, you can do this with the throttle body off of the car, but you have to use a multimeter that will put it's own power through. otherwise, have the key in the on position, and put one probe to the hot wire(green on fox's, and grey w/ white stripe for SN95). make sure that it's between .98-.99 volts. loosen and rotate the tps untill it is in proper range.

-then you will be poised to set the base idle.
-first off, I'd take off the Idle control valve, spray some brake cleaner in it and give it a good shake before the brake cleaner dries. do this a couple times to get all the gunk out of it. (just in case it liked to stick.)
-Then you disconnect the battery for 30 minutes, disconnect the idle control motor from the harness, reconnect battery and start her up. use the throttle plate stop screw to set the base idle. turn the car off, and reconnect the idle control motor. run the car for 2 minutes with all accessories OFF (radio, headlights, defrost, etc.). turn the car off. wait a couple more minutes and run the motor again, but with all accessories ON, for two minutes.

-that should do it! no more surging at idle, unless you have vacuum leaks. 5.0's don't have very many vacuum lines that lead to teh manifold so it shouldn't be too hard to track down. once the car has the proper throttle information feed, it can properly adjust gas and spark, reducing hanging rpm and acceleration cough.