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stykthyn

I want to measure mine. It doesn't look that tall.
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does anyone run the street heat combo on their daily? I have a spare shortblock that I am building up for next summer and I am curious about installing a trickflow top end. my current engine has an explorer set up and it does great in town and has awesome manners under 2000 rpms. since the new motor is going into my daily I was wondering if the street heat package makes for a good daily.
 

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It will do just fine

You could try advancing the cam 2* with an adjustable timing chain gear, to make it just a little more torquey...
 

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Subscribing. Curious about this too
 

stykthyn

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5spd GT said:
It will do just fine

You could try advancing the cam 2* with an adjustable timing chain gear, to make it just a little more torquey...
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sweet. how do they hold up over time? I would most likely be buying used parts since I am on a tight budget( who would of thought kids would be so expensive)
 

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How does what hold up through time? The intake? Geez, maybe about 100 years or so
 

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^How much power you make w/ the TFS package? Did you go w/ the kit from their site?
 

stykthyn

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How does what hold up through time? The intake? Geez, maybe about 100 years or so
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heads/intake
will I run into issues buying used parts?
 

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I ran the TFS package on my daily driver for a few years. It was fine. Do NOT advance the cam via the timing chain with out knowing where it is in the first place. If youre gonna do that, degree it in. It has 4* of advance in it already. Tne only problems I ever had was sometimes dealing with some cold or hot start surging issues but thats due to the 'calibrated' maf meter. This was before I bought a PMS tuning device. I made 304rwhp/339rwtq tuned myself, nothing special but a lot to some.
 

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^How much power you make w/ the TFS package? Did you go w/ the kit from their site?
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Havent had it dynoed yet but I could almost guarentee at least 300 rwhp. I bought the street heat kit from summits website. I think it wwas like 2300 shipped. I spent about another 1500 for supporting mods and all brand new sensors, etc.
 

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stykthn - Since I have degreed a camshaft myself, I know all about 'understanding' where a cam should be, in this case I would not worry about it. Hundreds of trickflow stage 1 guys (including a few friends) have used the TFS1 cam, installed 'dot to dot', and the vast majority have no issue, and if they are ever "off," you would not even likely notice, because the difference is that small.

Here is some part numbers and information that may help you piece together a 'kit.'. You do not need valve covers either, you can reuse your old ones.

Trickflow H/C/I Combinations:

Street Heat Kits for $2,450:

TFS-K514-350-370 - Street Heat Intake/Street Heat Heads (smog provisions).
TFS-K514-350-370B – Street Heat Intake/Street Heat Heads, Black Upper Intake and Black Valve Covers (smog provisions).

That kit includes:

TFS-51402000 - Stage 1 Cam
TFS-51400510 - 1.6 Ratio, 3/8" Stud, Set of 16
TFS-21406700 - Pushrod Set of 16 -6.700”
TFS-51400904 - Head Gasket Set
TFS-51400801 - Cast Valve Covers or TFS-51411801 for Black.
TFS-51400004 - Twisted Wedge/Street Heads, Assembled (Kit has Single Valve Spring)
TFS-51500001 - 5.0L Street Heat EFI Intake Manifold
ARP-154-3601 - ARP Head Bolt Kit
TFS-51400800 - Oil Fill Kit
TFS-51478520 - Billet Timing Chain Set
FEL-TCS45449 - Fel-Pro Timing Cover Gasket Kit

Track Heat Kits for $2,500:

TFS-K514-360-350 – Track Heat Intake/Track Heat Heads (no smog provisions).
TFS-K514-360350B – Track Heat Intake/Track Heat Heads, Black Upper Intake and Black Valve Covers (no smog provisions).

TFS-51402000 - Stage 1 Cam
TFS-51400510 - 1.6 Ratio, 3/8" Stud, Set of 16, ask for 7/16” stud if wanted.
TFS-21406700 - Pushrod Set of 16 -6.700”
TFS-51400904 - Head Gasket Set
TFS-51400801 - Cast Valve Covers or TFS-51411801 for Black.
TFS-51400004 - Twisted Wedge/Street Heads, ask for track heat head upgrade confirmation.
TFS-51500001 - 5.0L Track Heat EFI Intake Manifold
ARP-154-3601 - ARP Head Bolt Kit
TFS-51400800 - Oil Fill Kit
TFS-51478520 - Billet Timing Chain Set
FEL-TCS45449 - Fel-Pro Timing Cover Gasket Kit

Extra Notes:
The street heat intake has 15 inch runners and the track heat intake has 12 inch runners.

The street heat heads come with smog provisions and the track heat does not. The track heat heads can be ported a bit more because of this.

Both the street heat and track heat heads come with 3/8” rocker studs and the track heat heads can be upgraded to thicker 7/16” rocker studs. Just call your sales representative to get the upgrade.

Both street heat and track heat versions have the option to come with dual valve springs and 10* locks.

Twisted Wedge and Street Heat Heads are the same, not to be confused with Track Heat.

The trickflow h/c/i packages are more designed for the fox-body cars do to valve cover tallness and throttle body adapter plate not being included.

Assembled Head Part Numbers:

Twisted Wedge/Street Heat Heads:

TFS-51400002 – TW/Street, 170cc Head, 61cc, 1.470" Single Valve Spring (.540”), 7* locks, 3/8” rocker studs, smog provisions, and not machined for o-rings. $1,200.

TFS-51400003 – TW/Street, 170cc Head, 61cc, 1.470" Single Valve Spring (.540”), 7* locks, 3/8” rocker studs, smog provisions and machined for o-rings. $1,310.

TFS-51400004 – TW/Street, 170cc Head, 61cc, 1.460" Dual Valve Springs (.600”), 7* locks, 3/8” rocker studs, smog provisions, and not machined for o-rings. $1,290.

TFS-51400004-C01 – TW/Street, 185cc Head, 64cc, 1.460" Dual Valve Spring (.600”), 7* locks, 3/8” rocker studs, smog provisions, and not machined for o-rings. $1,860.

TFS-51400004-CO2 – TW/Street, 205cc Head, 65cc, Dual Valve Spring (.600”), 7* locks, 3/8” rocker studs, smog provisions, and not machined for o-rings. $1,960.

TFS-51400005 – TW/Street, 170cc Head, 61cc, 1.460" Dual Valve Spring (.600”), 7* locks, 3/8” rocker studs, smog provisions, and machined for o-rings. $1,340.


Also, here is the cam specs for the Trickflow Stage 1:

TFS 1 - 221*/225* - 275*/279* - .499"/.510" - .312"/.319" - 112* - 108*/116* - 2,000-5,500 RPM
1.6 Rocker Ratio
Intake Opening: 3* BTDC
Intake Closing: 38* ABDC
Exhaust Opening: 49* BBDC
Exhaust Closing: 4* BTDC

Recommended Valve Springs:
TFS-51400413 with 1.6 ratio rocker arms
Recommended Valve Springs:
TFS-31400414 with 1.7 ratio rocker arms

Like I said, if you are concerned with 'more torque', you can make that cam work by advancing it 2* or so, to knock the powerband a couple hundred rpm. Most guys shift points are in the 5,700-6,000 rpm range. In my opinion that is fine, but some want more of a torquey feel.

Dyno numbers can vary from 310rwhp down to 280rwhp. It just depends on how many accessories they deleted and what transmission it is thru, coupled with an okay tune.

You can get these things to drive nicely for a daily driver with some fuel pressure and timing changes

Good Luck
 

stykthyn

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my goal is 300-320, something that I dont think will easily happen with my gt40 setup. while 300 may not sound like a lot I have found that is perfect for a street oriented vehicle that will only see the track once or twice a season and the trickflow parts seem to offer the best bang for the buck in getting there.
what kind of mileage do you guy see with these heads and intakes? I would love to keep it around 17mpg in the city.
 

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5spd GT said:
You do not need valve covers either, you can reuse your old ones.

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The kit comes with nice valve covers and oil fill kit. No need to put back on the chitty stockers
 

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stykthyn said:
my goal is 300-320, something that I dont think will easily happen with my gt40 setup. while 300 may not sound like a lot I have found that is perfect for a street oriented vehicle that will only see the track once or twice a season and the trickflow parts seem to offer the best bang for the buck in getting there.
what kind of mileage do you guy see with these heads and intakes? I would love to keep it around 17mpg in the city.
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with all the mods in my sig I get like a mile to the gallon lol. I only drive it about twice a month for a couple miles so its not an issue. Realistically dont expect 17 mpg unless your out on a highway
 

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Shortthrow - I am well aware that they come with valve covers, but he is wanting to piece together the 'kit', and I was letting him know that he does NOT need the valve covers if he is wanting to save a buck or two.
 

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5spd GT said:
Shortthrow - I am well aware that they come with valve covers, but he is wanting to piece together the 'kit', and I was letting him know that he does NOT need the valve covers if he is wanting to save a buck or two.
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sorry bro
 

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It's cool
 
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