dang, those stage 2 cams sounds even better. i want a set of stage 2 cams but i read some where that if u don't have a least port and polished heads, they wont do much better then the stage 1 cams. and since i wont be doing that any time soon, like 3-4 years,.... i think stage ones would be better for now. what else would i need to do to my car to get the best out of these cams. i know 4.10's out back and long tubes and a good tune, but any thing else?? oh yeah by the way, i'm new to the message board, but i've been reading up here for the past few months. thanks