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MrGame

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i was thinking about going Stage I on my 02 also, idk why haha it randomly popped into my head
 
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speedfreak98r said:
If you have a steady hand, and an eye for detail, it can be done with a Dremmel tool, and a few hours of concentration.
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Are you referring to porting, polishing, or both?
 

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jasonh_86 said:
6400 plus? I don't think so. I shift at 6100rpm with my VT Stage 2 n/a cams. Going anywhere past is useless with mine.
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ohh.. my bad. just what ive heard..
 

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steveb24 said:
ohh.. my bad. just what ive heard..
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Its all good ... It may be like that with p/p heads and a built motor, but i'm just goin by my stock longblock.
 

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i also based that on the fact that my stg 1's pull really good even all the way to 63-6400 ish. (limiter was 6400 and i hit it in 4th) she was pullin really hard.. and yeah.. i was goin fast (lehigh tunnel)
 
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Yellow2002GT

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I am looking for 320 and 320 HP & TQ with the head and cam swap........... with a good valve job and ported heads....its worth about 20-25 hp...........I will be doing VT stage II's with Patriot Stage II heads.............I know of 2 pushing 320+ and have less bolt ons than I do......

"ED"
 

stangman

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Yellow2002GT said:
I am looking for 320 and 320 HP & TQ with the head and cam swap........... with a good valve job and ported heads....its worth about 20-25 hp...........I will be doing VT stage II's with Patriot Stage II heads.............I know of 2 pushing 320+ and have less bolt ons than I do......

"ED"
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do yourself a favor & get different heads
 

Unreal281

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stangman said:
do yourself a favor & get different heads
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Is it better to port/polish the stock heads??? or buy new ones...?

If so, what brand....

My goal for the summer is 320 WHP....


thanx
 

stangman

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Unreal281 said:
Is it better to port/polish the stock heads??? or buy new ones...?

If so, what brand....

My goal for the summer is 320 WHP....


thanx
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if it were me i'd get a set of MPH 2.5 heads. VT engines, & Fox Lake also have good stuff as well
www.modularpowerhouse.com
 
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san~man

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Unreal281 said:
Is it better to port/polish the stock heads??? or buy new ones...?

If so, what brand....

My goal for the summer is 320 WHP....


thanx
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"New" heads are simply factory Ford castings that are ported/polished by an aftermarket company.
 

Unreal281

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san~man said:
"New" heads are simply factory Ford castings that are ported/polished by an aftermarket company.
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Well...not to beat the subject to death...but do you guys think its possible for me to port/polish my own heads with my friends dad (ford guy currently building a stroker motor for an old fuel injected 5Liter...)do all of the mods I suggested in the beginning...plus the existing bolt ons I already have...and hit 320ish???

 

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i wouldnt..
porting and polishing is from what i understand an extreemely precise deal. Its not about making them the biggest ports you possible can.. there many other things to take into account that an eye and hand cant
 
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Unreal281 said:
Well...not to beat the subject to death...but do you guys think its possible for me to port/polish my own heads with my friends dad (ford guy currently building a stroker motor for an old fuel injected 5Liter...)do all of the mods I suggested in the beginning...plus the existing bolt ons I already have...and hit 320ish???

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No.
 

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san~man said:
No.
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This does not seem all that promising...
 

LaserRed01GT

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Unreal281 said:
Hmm...what about the whole "polishing" part...?

What exactly does that mean anywayz?
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Most of the popular shops like VT and MPH get their heads from Fox Lake.

Ron is a great guy over at Fox Lake and is very knowledgeable. Fox Lake does not polish their intake runners or exhaust ports. And to the best of my knowledge, most shops that re-sell Fox lake ported heads do not touch them either. Some shops that hand port their own heads without using a CNC machine will fan roll the intake runner and exhaust port as the final touch, but even fan rolling is not a polished finish.

If you see 4.6 2 valve heads that are advertised as polished, you probably want to stay away from that shop. Nobody in the know actually polishes a fuel injected head. You want the intake runner to retain the very small CNC cuts. It keeps the fuel in suspension.

Please don't attempt to port your own cylinder heads. Porting cylinder heads should ONLY be done by the pros who know what they are doing. It's a vey complex process and the port geometry involves some in depth calculations. You can quickly ruin a head with a dremel.
 

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LaserRed01GT said:
Most of the popular shops like VT and MPH get their heads from Fox Lake.

Ron is a great guy over at Fox Lake and is very knowledgeable. Fox Lake does not polish their intake runners or exhaust ports. And to the best of my knowledge, most shops that re-sell Fox lake ported heads do not touch them either. Some shops that hand port their own heads without using a CNC machine will fan roll the intake runner and exhaust port as the final touch, but even fan rolling is not a polished finish.

If you see 4.6 2 valve heads that are advertised as polished, you probably want to stay away from that shop. Nobody in the know actually polishes a fuel injected head. You want the intake runner to retain the very small CNC cuts. It keeps the fuel in suspension.

Please don't attempt to port your own cylinder heads. Porting cylinder heads should ONLY be done by the pros who know what they are doing. It's a vey complex process and the port geometry involves some in depth calculations. You can quickly ruin a head with a dremel.
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if fox lake does MPH's heads that's new to me
 

LaserRed01GT

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stangman said:
if fox lake does MPH's heads that's new to me
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I meant Modular Depot, Tim sends his heads to an independant local guy.
 
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Doesn't VT port their own heads too?
 

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san~man said:
Doesn't VT port their own heads too?
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Ron (Fox Lake) does the porting for the heads that VT Engines sells.
 

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san~man said:
Doesn't VT port their own heads too?
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My VT heads were done by Fox Lake...but they were cheaper from VT with no core back when i bought them.
 
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