Michael Yount said:
Yup 5 spd - the newer cars are heavier. The lightest weight I've seen anywhere on the 05's is 3550. And you can bet the heavily optioned ones are heavier than that. The word is already out that the Shelby or Cobra or whatever they're gonna call it is likely to have a curb weight in the 3850 lb. range - over 4000 with most drivers. Don't know why you don't want to admit it - but the evidence is incontrovertible. The newer Stangs are heavier than the SN95's which were heavier than the Foxes. No way around it.
My point is that it isn't neccessarily a bad thing to be heavier. You make it out in several of your "weighted" post about how they are pigs and this and that and yet you forget to mention any pros the majority of the time. The newer cars are faster/handle better/quieter/more comfortable/brake better/safer/with other loaded options. Do actually think that we would lose weight. If you see what we have actually gained in the last 10-15 years in respect to ride control/quality I think the little weight gained is quite insignificant.
Bias is just a pet peeve of mine. I am bias when it comes to defending the defenseless though (4.6L "trashtalking" in the 5.0L section)

My CT shows all...lol.
I did some quick searching and found out some more 05 weights. Just because the lightest you have seen doesn't mean that is the lightest there is. The 05's are pretty standardly loaded so you don't get any weight options when you get a more loaded car.
On fast-autos.net it list the curb weight as 3425lbs. That is lighter than the 3,550lbs you mentioned.
They have 1hp to every 11.7lbs.
Guess what my hp:weight ratio is for my 5.0L when stock. 14.13lbs per 1hp. That is a considerable difference. Now that is something that is incontrovertible.
So pigs in reference to what? Just the weight?...why not throw the other parts in
In short, I just think your post about them are quite bias on the heaviness. You tend to show the "highside" of things sometimes. It can be good in some instances when talking about safety in a car but when trying to persuay against the new cars in a negative light...I just say
Just keep an eye on this thread and let's see if many get on the "highside" of things for ya
http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?p=5406028#post5406028
Anyways...