Just the facts, ma'm
Thanks, cuban3, for the factual slant on this. Whether you think that nitrous is "cheating" or not is opinion, still we need to avoid misinformation. I hate to be critical on a first post, but I hate all the misinformation disseminated on the 'net.
I'm into turbo's, not nitrous, but I have hung out on many power adder boards that discuss nitrous oxide use. I have NEVER heard anyone claim that it leaves deposits until today. Chemically, it makes no sense either. It's simply a nitrogen/oxygen compound that breaks down in the combustion chamber into:
yeah, you guessed it, nitrogen and oxygen. Nitrogen is inert, oxygen supports more combustion of fuel, thus the power increase.
Engine damage occurs when people don't enrich the fuel properly, or run too much. I doubt that a 50-75 HP shot would effect the reliability of even a box-stock engine one bit.
Thanks, cuban3, for the factual slant on this. Whether you think that nitrous is "cheating" or not is opinion, still we need to avoid misinformation. I hate to be critical on a first post, but I hate all the misinformation disseminated on the 'net.
I'm into turbo's, not nitrous, but I have hung out on many power adder boards that discuss nitrous oxide use. I have NEVER heard anyone claim that it leaves deposits until today. Chemically, it makes no sense either. It's simply a nitrogen/oxygen compound that breaks down in the combustion chamber into:
yeah, you guessed it, nitrogen and oxygen. Nitrogen is inert, oxygen supports more combustion of fuel, thus the power increase.
Engine damage occurs when people don't enrich the fuel properly, or run too much. I doubt that a 50-75 HP shot would effect the reliability of even a box-stock engine one bit.
You know, there is just no conversing with the (to be politically correct) "n i t r o u s" addicts out there. I like the way your post starts off...."Where did you come up with that?"....basically saying, "You have no idea WTF you're talking about....I'M the one with the Import Tuner subscription...." You should work on not being so condecending when you post. FYI, nitrous deposits are what get left behind every time you spray. Over time, they build up inside the engine and actually serve the purpose of robbing the engine of horsepower. Eventually, you'll go to spray one night and you're engine blows up b/c the build up has gotten so bad on the inside. And for the record, if the Trans-Am could beat the Civic w/o using nos, then if it did use nos, it would be alot faster than the Civic using nos. It's true, not everyone wants their car to be a work of art, but driving around in a car thats five different colors, busted up, looking like crap but still having full nos bottles in the back is simply idiotic IMO.
Like I said before, there is just no point in continuing this conversation.
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You know, there's no point in arguing with someone if they've already got their mind made up about something, so I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain to you why using a "cheater's kit" is cheating. If you want to run around thinking that Nitrous is a 100% fair and safe modification, then go right ahead. As you said yourself, nobody's perfect.
I'm not arguing just giving you the correct facts. You may not like the idea of N2O niether do I really. But on a very basic level it's just like every other engine modification. Now that I have basicly proven your "nitrous deposits" idea wrong please explain to me why a properly tuned and maintained nitrous kit can't be safe? Most of the horror stories from N2O come from people who ran too high a shot for there engine. The ford 3.8 has been proven time and time again to hold up to a 75 shot and in alot of cases a 100 shot. Most of the times that parts have broken they have been rear ends because guys running that much power like running slicks and the 7.5" rear end doesn't like slicks one bit.
Seriously though, you ask for a rebuttle, and I respond by not offering you one in the least. As before stated and I'm sure you read, I'm not willing to waste my time trying to change your mind when you are thoroughly convinced you are right. It wouldn't matter if I could sit here and PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am correct on this matter, you would STILL insist that you are right. FYI, I'm not mad at all about anything. I just find it amusing that you think you know everything. That said, have a nice day.
you at any point in this conversation, but seriously, why bother? No offense, but you try to be quite the smart a$$ and I now see why there are alot of people here who don't get along with you. Also, stooping to personal attacks and putting words in my mouth is simply childish. You should head over to the MustangWorld forums were stuff like that is considered "cool." As for teaching me something, believe me...there is not one single thing you know that you could teach me. You may have been researching the modifications for the 3.8 for 4+ years, but I've been around cars my entire life...that makes 23 years. So when you try to tell me that you just figured out the gas is on the right after four years of study, please, don't be surprised when I tell you I already know. This will be my final post in this thread because I have wasted more than enough of my time arguing over a modification that is BLATANTLY CHEATING AND UNSAFE FOR YOUR ENGINE with someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Hopefully this thread will get
before some newbie comes in here, reads what you wrote, believes your ramblings, then goes out and blows the motor on his car b/c you said nitrous was perfectly safe.