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who traps 104+ with BASIC bolt ons?

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Daniel50

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so your saying you can trap a 109 at sea level with an untouched long block? sorry i just cant see that happening
 

cleanLX

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Daniel50 said:
so your saying you can trap a 109 at sea level with an untouched long block? sorry i just cant see that happening
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I'm not saying it, the NHRA correction factors are.
Bob Cosby was running 109mph and 12.6's back in the day... and several posts regarding stockers on the corral have 108-109 traps on stock long blocks over on the east coast.

I moved from New Brunswick (ran 13.2's consistantly) to Phoenix (had trouble running 13.9's) and lost over 4mph running stock exhaust.

I don't think it's out of line at all.
 

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The 82 trapped 103 and 104 at 12.93, all motor last March. I sprayed one run to a 106. This my carbed, garage built 82 with a C4, etc. With the 4.10's, I am about as fast as I want to spin this motor.
 

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Back when I had just bolt ons I was trapping 103. Now with the valves in the heads the cars uaully around 106...

I have known guys trapping 105+ with untouched long blocks, but the cars were usually lighter, and the guys had more drag oriented set ups!
 

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I don't know why it is so hard for some people to beleive. All it takes is a good running combo and alot of practice.
 

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Daniel50 said:
not sure what is so confusing here. ill go slow lol....

I trap 110 on nitrous

I trap 102 without nitrous

I want to trap 104. is this possible with a cobra intake and 1.7 rockers in addition to my current mods without NITROUS?
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why 30lbs injectors?
 

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25thmustang said:
I have known guys trapping 105+ with untouched long blocks, but the cars were usually lighter, and the guys had more drag oriented set ups!
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I trapped 105 with bone stock heads, headers, rockers, injectors, cam, etc....

Could have easily gone 107 or better with just a few track only tricks. (ie. removing front swaybar, lighten up the interior by removing the back seats and such, ice the intake down, etc....)

105 is no problem.

Edit: This was in my 89 coupe, not my Terminator, lol...
 

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Thats why I said usually... Have to cover everyone out there, as I know there are guys who have been 105 with untouched motors in their daily drivers.

I knew a guy who claimed to have trapped slightly over 100 in his bone stock hatch (car did have an H-pipe).
 

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04Sleeper = I trapped 105 with bone stock heads, headers, rockers, injectors, cam, etc....

Yeah,and when he was done he took off his CAI and shaved using his butterfly in the TB as a mirror!!
(inside joke)
 

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Yeah,and when he was done he took off his CAI and shaved using his butterfly in the TB as a mirror!!
(inside joke)
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Hey, it's all good. I like to get what I can out of what I have.

Don't give away all the secrets Billy. LOL

BTW: I got a pretty good shave too.......
 

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Been a long time since I posted over here. Anyway, just to be accurate, what I claim as my best trap speed with the stock longblock is below:



I did have one run in which I went 108.32 mph, but if you look at the car in the other lane, his mph was EXACTLY the same, and I didn't normally gain 24 mph in the backhalf, so I don't claim this one:



I suspect a computer/timing light glitch.

Besides....ET rules and mph drools.
 

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Nice runs there Bob.

BTW, Nice Hog!
 

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Bob Cosby said:
Been a long time since I posted over here. Anyway, just to be accurate, what I claim as my best trap speed with the stock longblock is below:



I did have one run in which I went 108.32 mph, but if you look at the car in the other lane, his mph was EXACTLY the same, and I didn't normally gain 24 mph in the backhalf, so I don't claim this one:



I suspect a computer/timing light glitch.

Besides....ET rules and mph drools.
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Bob can you list the mods? 1.6 60fts on a stock long block is rediculous!
 

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willys1 said:
Bob can you list the mods? 1.6 60fts on a stock long block is rediculous!
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I would kill to get short times like that.
 

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this thread is so confusing cuz i orignally posted this months ago and since then my signature has been updated with more mods. thats why i have the mods that i was asking about. and i have 30lb injectors cuz i have a custom chip and a dyno tune.
 

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n/m
 

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Daniel50 said:
i have 30lb injectors cuz i have a custom chip and a dyno tune.
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What kind of numbers did you put down? We have similar mods, and I know I could have put down more hp & tq if I would have had a chance to tune my car. I was running very rich with stock 19lb injectors and a wet kit.
 

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Complete list of mods, in chronological order, can be found HERE.

At the time of that run, I was using stock control arms, springs, shocks, and struts. Chassis mods consisted of removed front swaybar, air bag in passenger side spring, rear-mounted trunk, and 26x8 Goodyear slicks.

Bob
 

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The best thing you can do is get some good tires and un-bolt the sway bar, etc. and most of all know how to drive the car. I know way to many people who think that hp is everything and not a single damn one of them knows how to drive a car at the track. They get out of the groove, none know how to launch off a line...i've known cars thats ran .3 better with a really good driver.
 

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Bob Cosby said:
Complete list of mods, in chronological order, can be found HERE.

At the time of that run, I was using stock control arms, springs, shocks, and struts. Chassis mods consisted of removed front swaybar, air bag in passenger side spring, rear-mounted trunk, and 26x8 Goodyear slicks.

Bob
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I give you alot of credit doing it back then before you had the big 5.0 following and all the mods that are available today!!
 
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