Why the Fox Conversions?

brentwoodboy · Sep 26, 2004

Been seeing people drop $500 on Fox Intake Conversions. What Pros does it have over, say, a stock 95 intake with throttle body and fenderwell CAI?

Mrgreen94gt · Sep 26, 2004

Looks better, gets rid of the extreme turn in the elbow, better throttle body choices, etc. It really shouldn't cost anywhere near $500 to do it, if you don't mind hunting up parts yourself.

NightStalkersSO · Sep 26, 2004

Better throttle body choices??? We have all the same stuff man, just ours is cheaper cause we don't have to buy the egr spacer! Really, the elbow is the only reason to get rid of it....cause obviously we can use any intake the foxs can...and saying the elbow takes away from power is BS. stock v stock though, the fox intake is better because the runners

94DreamGT · Sep 26, 2004

Until I see actual proof (i.e....immediately before and after) on the dyno that is increases power...the only advantages that I see are that it gives you a little cleaner engine bay with the ability to use an Accufab TB and not mess with the elbows. A blower car might have some more benefits too.

Not worth the $$$ in my opinon...until someone proves me wrong

wytstang · Sep 26, 2004

94DreamGT said:
Until I see actual proof (i.e....immediately before and after) on the dyno that is increases power...the only advantages that I see are that it gives you a little cleaner engine bay with the ability to use an Accufab TB and not mess with the elbows. A blower car might have some more benefits too.

Not worth the $$$ in my opinon...until someone proves me wrong

I agree Accufab TB are nice but the BBK's will do just fine for me. Unless I remove the egr system and get a good deal on a conversion kit.

4Jenna · Sep 26, 2004

On a power adder car the gains have been dyno proven. X2C gained 40rwhp and 2psi on a blown 95gt (they advertise that). As for the TB's you being able to run a Accufab should be the main point, your hanging throttle will go away, and yes you have more TB size options..up to 90mm or whatever. It also cleans the bay up.
Not bad for 500 bucks in my book....gain hp/tq and boost, get the dreaded 94-95 hanging throttle fixed, and clean your bay up at the same time.

Chris
The intake path is obviously a smoother tract, less bends=more hp.

4Jenna · Sep 26, 2004

My BBK TB idle hung for 2 years, tried everything in the book...I was like must be a 94-95 thing, my tuner even spent 45min on the dyno and couldn't fix it.

I put the Fox conversion on..Wa-La Gone.

revhead347 · Sep 26, 2004

I think the intake on the SN is better. The angle is far more extreme on the fox intake.

Kurt

Dan95-5.0 · Sep 26, 2004

revhead347 said:
I think the intake on the SN is better. The angle is far more extreme on the fox intake.

Kurt

wow someone else that sees that besides me. lol

you might not have that 45 degree bend like the 94-95 intake on the 93 style but you have a 90 degree bend in the cold air intake.

dont get me wrong, i like the cleaner look and the ability to run different valve covers but i dont think i'd be doing that swap

RIO5.0 · Sep 26, 2004

I picked up 10 ponies on the dyno...most of you know I had a Tmoss ported lower than did the Fox swap...before and after numbers here....I was really expecting more...dont we all... but 10 is what it was for me...i'm pretty muched warmed over OEM stuff....did hit 302/302 though... Some comfort there..

Its mostly for looks and ease of working around things for me...plus i like to mod stuff and its got a nice look to it...I just dont like the elbow adapters.. they look "tacked" on to me....tried that too...

I did mine for less than 500.00...BUT...theres something to be said about having the whole kit/parts in one shot...makes for an easy a/noon swap...no hunting involved...

Fox swap lets you run 3 different uppers to if you stay Ford...only one I haven't done is the GT40 Tubular...But I'm hunting for one if someones comes across one...

saleenadam · Sep 26, 2004

I haven't done the conversion and don't plan to but one pro would be that it gets rid of the stupid metal tube from the header to the throttle body of the SN that's always a pain to get on and off, I hate that thing.

revhead347 · Sep 26, 2004

You get rid of that thing when you get long tubes. I don't run an EGR anyway.

Kurt

4Jenna · Sep 26, 2004

If you have a blower on a SN95..especially a Vortech..the conversion will help tremendously. The Vortech tubeing is like 2 1/4" and has some serious bends, where with this kit it's a true 3" all the way up to the TB, with one smooth bend.
As for the N/A crowd...wouldn't know.

My boost gains were signifigant in the lower rpms...haven't taken it all the way up (no tune)

That X2C 500$ kit is aimed towards supercharged cars...if you wanted one N/A it wouldn't have the discharge tube I'm talking about which would bring the price down prob 100-150$.

Dave95GT · Sep 26, 2004

Run #11 was an all motor run with a CAI, SN95 elbow adapter elbow and a BBK 70mm TB on a Holly Systemax intake after tuning A/F and timing.

Run #12 and 13 were nitrous runs with the SN stuff.

Run #14 was an all motor run with a C&L 75mm intake tube, Fox style BBK 70mm TB and the same Holley Systemax intake before any tuning.

zenboy99 · Sep 26, 2004

revhead347 said:
I think the intake on the SN is better. The angle is far more extreme on the fox intake.

If you look at it on multiple planes the angle isn't better. Look how quick the throttle body adapter angles up towards the intake in a few inches, the fox conversion lessens that.

revhead347 · Sep 26, 2004

Does anyone have some positive dyno on the swap.

Kurt

GTJake · Sep 26, 2004

Did you check out Dave's post above?

Jake

revhead347 · Sep 26, 2004

Yeah. damn, I must have misread what it was. That's pretty tits. What do I need to do this?

Kurt

GTJake · Sep 26, 2004

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?p=4368467#post4368467

Jake

94DreamGT · Sep 26, 2004

Dave...how far apart were those dyno runs? I'm assuming they weren't on the same day, right?

Was it the same dyno? What were you using before the c&L?

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