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Will the TFS stage 1 cam work with strock valve springs?

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88 Fox GT

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Will the TFS stage 1 cam work with stock valve springs?

I did a search and read that someone said he was running .510" lift on stock valve springs. Is that maxing out the stock springs or what? I want to put a stage 1 in my '65 this winter. I just want to be sure I can use the stock springs with NO troubles. Thanks.
 
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i would say that they would work but stiffer rated springs would work way better, you may get some ramping with higher rpms and wont get a good seal if you use the stock ones. i have the "f" cam .512 lift with 125 pound springs and they work great.

hey, i just noticed your from iowa, what part? i live in shell rock, near waverly
 

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Thanks for the info. I will probably either buy a set of ported heads or port my own heads, so I will probably just go ahead and replace the springs then.

I live near Ottumwa, you're quite a ways away. lol
 

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denny davis said:
i would say that they would work but stiffer rated springs would work way better, you may get some ramping with higher rpms and wont get a good seal if you use the stock ones. i have the "f" cam .512 lift with 125 pound springs and they work great.

hey, i just noticed your from iowa, what part? i live in shell rock, near waverly
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Denny, where are you from in Iowa? And speed Demon, I'd not take a chance with valve float as the stage 1 has a bit more duration than the stock cam.
Tim
 

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I'd say they will work up until about 5,000 RPM's and then you will experience valve float on your stock springs.... especially if they have high milage on them.
 

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srothfuss said:
I'd say they will work up until about 5,000 RPM's and then you will experience valve float on your stock springs.... especially if they have high milage on them.
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I will probably go ahead and change them, then. I like to take her to 5000-5500 a lot. Thanks.
 

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You will need different springs. Yeah, it will run with stockers, but I wouldn't do that. I knew a guy running the F cam with stock springs, .512 lift, floated valves at 4Krpm, then one spring broke a few months later and the valve dropped down and gernaded the motor.
 

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90mustangGT said:
You will need different springs. Yeah, it will run with stockers, but I wouldn't do that. I knew a guy running the F cam with stock springs, .512 lift, floated valves at 4Krpm, then one spring broke a few months later and the valve dropped down and gernaded the motor.
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Ouch. I definitely don't want that s**t. lol

TrickFlow sells a valve spring kit for OEM heads that allows you to run .542" lift, costs $130. Looks like a good kit to me.

http://www.trickflow.com/product/camsandvalvetrain/pr_springupgradekits.asp
 

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Speed_Demon1965 said:
Ouch. I definitely don't want that s**t. lol

TrickFlow sells a valve spring kit for OEM heads that allows you to run .542" lift, costs $130. Looks like a good kit to me.

http://www.trickflow.com/product/camsandvalvetrain/pr_springupgradekits.asp
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Very wise grasshopper!!!
 

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Very wise grasshopper!!!
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Hey, I do what I can.

Hopefully this cam will do some good. I have heard a couple sound clips and they sound pretty sick, but I want some good pull. The engine needs some internal mods, basically. And I'm a broke ass kid, so I can't go too radical yet.
 

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I've broke stock pedestal bolts on some GT40s with stock springs and that cam.. Pick up a take-off set of AFR/Trick Flow springs rated to .550 for cheap...
 
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