Won a KB 1.7 in a bar bet...

ABQGT

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So the title may not sound technical but I promise the rest is. Long story short I bet my dad he couldn't bring a certain girl home from a local bar and the wager was if he did I lost my car and if I won he paid for a bottom-end build and a KB 1.7 to top it off. Guess who won... So now my question is this, what forged pistons and rods have proven the best in our stock block, and what about the crank? I've heard both ways about our stock crank. Anyone with horror stories and those of success are greatly appreciated. This is my one chance to get it done and done right so lets hear it...

 

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So how much did you pay the lady?

I believe the stock crank is enough to handle a KB, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Check out these very reputable sites for bottom end ideas:

http://www.modularmustangracing.com/

http://modularpowerhouse.com/index.php?cPath=21_23&osCsid=12c061d73da00e57c981b3838db77bc0

http://www.vtengines.com/main.htm

 

BurningRubber

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Wow man, you and your dad dont f**k around, huh?

 

ABQGT

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Actually the best part was when she asked how old he was her response was "thats a year younger than my dad" classic...

 

the98stang

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ABQGT said:

Actually the best part was when she asked how old he was her response was "thats a year younger than my dad" classic...

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dam* I bet your dad feels sh1tty right now. First he gets shut down and now he's buying you a new bottem end and SC! One hell of a bet..

 

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Your dad made a bet he couldn't lose. If he won he gets the girl, if he lost a KB goes into "your" Mustang...

 

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Yeah plan on your dad taking that car for a drive or two... or eleventy billion.

 

stangGT97

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ABQGT said:

So the title may not sound technical but I promise the rest is. Long story short I bet my dad he couldn't bring a certain girl home from a local bar and the wager was if he did I lost my car and if I won he paid for a bottom-end build and a KB 1.7 to top it off. Guess who won... So now my question is this, what forged pistons and rods have proven the best in our stock block, and what about the crank? I've heard both ways about our stock crank. Anyone with horror stories and those of success are greatly appreciated. This is my one chance to get it done and done right so lets hear it...

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thats one hell of a bet, good thing you won!

Stock GT crank is good to about 500hp, if you're looking for more, then a forged Cobra crank will be good for something like 1000hp or so. If he's paying, you should pick one up Are you looking to buy a complete shortblock or just the internals?

 

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Helluva bet, congrats on winning it.

 

BooWFO

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Dude I swear if I was him. I would've just walked up to her and told that no I don't think she is a prositue but would she like a mustang. if so just go home with him and it's hers.

Now for the tech side.
How much boost you plan on running and if someone else is footing the bill I'd go with the 2.2l KB.

 

1fast03pony

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Wow....

Get a Forged GT shortblock by VT Engines
And a 2.2L KB
And a serious hood (preferably carbon fiber or fiberglass) to fit that monster under the hood


im jealous...

 

Skidzz

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Holy s***. That's a crazy bet. If you dad agreed to pay for everything, you should go balls out and get the cobra crank. Hell, or just the vt block. The sky is the limit man.

 

ABQGT

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Now that I think about it I should've bet the 2.2! I said the 1.7 and a forged bottom end or my car so I'm stickin to it... I'm plannin on the intercooled 14psi and if I can talk him into it a Cobra crank to go with it

 

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man.......i fuggin hate you.

if my dad lost that bet, id hear "haha, just kidding, i wanted to crush your hopes. i couldve had that chick if i wanted to anyways".

Id go balls to the wall, even with the 1.7L. VT Pro 5.4L shortblock and the KB 1.7L will make a badass setup. then you can do heads/cams later(or do them now with your own money).

 

Outlaw97GT

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I'll beleive when I see see it...

I don't see any dad unassin' 10k on a drunkin bet with their son.

 

02dragGT

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1fast03pony said:

Get a Forged GT shortblock by VT Engines

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+1

 

GDawg

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Your dad loves you... bottom line.

Homo...

 

WashburnGT

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As stated above the stock GT crank is good to about 500BHP. They say that the rods are good until 400-450BHP. The real killer of PM rods is high RPMs and detonation is the killer for PM pistons. Forged H or I beams would suit your needs fine. Obviously forged pistons would be your best bet as well. I would get pistons which lower your compression and help reduce the threat of detonation. If you're going to replace your whole botom end I would suggest getting a complete rotating assembly that comes as a kit instead of piecing parts together, that way you can get a bottom end which is already balanced. As far as where you can find all this stuff...there are quite a few e-stores that have them, RPMoutlet.com,VT's, Livernois and Coast High Perfomance just to name a few. Pick up a copy of Muscular Mustangs and Fast Fords at a local store and you'll have more internals than you can shake a stick at.
On a side note KB claims that the 1.7 with one of the lower boost pullies (cant remember exatly) will work on a stock GT bottom end. They send a reflash for your ECU that comes with a "safe" tune.

Im sure if I missed something or mis-stated anything someone wil be kind enough to correct me.

 

Built98GT

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Tell your dad to pass a little of that money this way. Seems like he might have too much! Get the cheapest built block you can and then go with the KB 2.2!!!!

 

Dr. Black

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I'm still stock and no Probs...but I'm sure I could break it if I wanted to!!! :}