As far as the newest STI's go.. a bad driver will hang with a great driver in a GT, given they are stock.
If you run 14+ you are not going to hang with the new STI, or the old STI. After reading this thread, I feel embarrassed about the lack of knowledge this board has on SO many topics concerning import cars. Do you guys just speak on what you THINK? Or do you actually go out and race these cars, and drive these cars? The new STI will NEVER see 14+ in ANY weather unless he misses a shift.
And whoever said that they arent that impressive from the launch should delete their account right NOW. These things are monsters, even stock, from a launch. I'm supercharged, and I run 1.9 60 foot times on my street tires, and I still get pulled 2 cars right off the bat from the new STI with minor mods.
I think there is a lot talking out of the ass on this board, it's ridiculous.