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wtf kinda citation is this?!

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_MATiC

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so i just pulled into my house a few mins ago, and this sheriff comes knocking on my door, i go outside, he asks for my dl, i give it to him and he cites me for "unsafe speed" bc supposedly i was taking a turn "too fast." now, i had seen the sheriff as i was coming home, and i KNEW he was going to come after me (c'mon, im 20 driving a stang)..but for him to come onto my property, get me outta my house and cite me for some bs that he could NOT have seen 300-400 yards out is crap! how the hell am i supposed to argue this in court?! i know im not guilty, and i had a friend with me that will gladly testify in my favor but come on..this judge is known to be an a hole and i know it's gonna end up in the sheriff's favor! man..this is so much crap..
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crapola
 

Blackened302

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god damn TX sheriffs... everyone that's stopped me was an azzhole... especially these small-town guys.
 

DFG 5OH

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i dont think that would hold up in court, i would think that you could fight it.
 

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i know i would fight that
 

Killercanary

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I'd fight it too. If you were not in the vehicle and he could not positively ID you the case may e thrown out depending on your local laws there. I assume it was dark out by the time of your post. Depending on how severe the ticket and points are you may want to hire an attorney.
 

Kevin R.

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That's retarded.

Come to Ohio, yesterday I got a warning for 86 in a 55!

(Disclaimer: Empty highways at 11am on my way back from school.)
 

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C'mon guys, he's in Texas!! He isn't going to win if he fights. They execute people there for the fun of it. You're in a heap o' trouble boy, fo' sho'.
 

TripleBlack95

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Get an attorney, first off I'm not answering the door to some ****face sheriff after I'm out of the car, and second you weren't in the car or driving the car so he has no justification in writing you up - if you don't get that thrown out then that's BS.
 

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If the courts are anything like in Florida, DONT get an attorney. I have 8 tickets and no points because I have taken everysingle one to court. The lawyers are doing the exact same thing you can do and you can save the $80 or whatever they charge.

Kevin R., I got pulled over doing 100 in a 55 coming home from the track one night (middle of nowhere, just wetlands and it was 2 in the morning) and the guy just called my parents and let me go.
 

BlownFiveLiter

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I say at least contact an attorney for legal advice. They may say you have nothing to worry about, but at the same time, he still had the legal authority to issue a citation even though you were in the house by the time he had reached you. I'd still fight it. It's a crappy situation, especially if he couldn't have seen you do anything wrong anyway.
 
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then fight it i WILL. i thought it was a bunch of bs and i even told the sheriff that there was no way he could have seen me, even if i HAD, taking a turn "too fast." Killercanary, ur right..it was about 12am, so it was very dark, not to mention he was quite a ways out..bah, now im gonna have to take time out of MY day to fight this crap..
 

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_MATiC said:
then fight it i WILL. i thought it was a bunch of bs and i even told the sheriff that there was no way he could have seen me, even if i HAD, taking a turn "too fast." Killercanary, ur right..it was about 12am, so it was very dark, not to mention he was quite a ways out..bah, now im gonna have to take time out of MY day to fight this crap..
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I'd really suggest hiring an attorney for this. You may be able to fight it yourself, but unless you're really familiar with the law you can still lose. Remember, it's not right or wrong; it's who the judge believes. And if the judge decides to be an a-hole about it, you'll need all the help you can get.
 
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yeah but attorneys arent cheap man..and if it comes down to it, i may end up paying for the freakin attorney, possibly lose, and end up paying for that crap..i'm not loaded here!
 

xr8d302

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Fight it yourself. Research it. Dress nicely for the appearance, like you're headed to a funeral, and honestly...say anything that will make you sound as financially pathetic as possible. Show ridiculous humbleness and respect for the judge, empowering him/her as much as you can. The judge will feel like they are the one thing standing between you and bankruptcy, and morals will get you off. It's a cycle, you feed their ego, they feed your ticket to the dumpster.
 

Kevin R.

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It's true. It's not right and wrong, it's who they believe and how much sympathy they have for you that gets you out.

So make it sound like if you lose this it will be the end of your life.

Good luck.
 

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If that doesn't work I'll kick his ass for ya Jk, don't want to get shot, but that does sound like a BS ticket to me. crapola
 

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dam i got caught doing 112 on the freeway with light traffic, the officer gave me a warnig and was looking at and asking how fast it was and stuff, it was back when i had a 2001 v6, fight that *****, there's no way he could of seen you, especially if you have tinted windows. and i would of not opened the door for ****, he cant make you open it.
 
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i wouldn't have opened the door, but my baby nephew was inside sleeping and i didn't want him banging on the door and waking him up. if i honestly had something to hide, i would have locked the gates..
 

xr8d302

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If worst comes to worst....you can try what the douche did in the other thread where his car got towed.

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=594336

No honestly, take my first reply seriously. I have a book here from an ex NY cop, that explains every little truth about how to get away from tickets and in the case that you do get them issued to you, how to beat'em in court. It's all that same logic I explained...
 

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That sucks man. Now it's time to protect yourself. Start piecing together your story in as much detail as you can. It will be important to be able to point to every fact (especially every fact that the officer would not dispute) that is in your favor.

It sounds like the position of the cop might help you. Sounds like he was quite a distance off. So go back over that. How far away? How difficult are the sight lines from that position (obstructions, perspective, etc.)? If this really helps you, then get a street map, or print off Google maps. Make a presentation that illustrates where he was and how he couldn't have made a reasonable judgement from there. But think carefully about this. How would a judge view this argument? Would he disagree with your position, and think the cop clearly had a clear view? If so, you need to get real empirical (measurements and perspective).

Then the night time thing helps. Look up the sunset. Bring a copy from the local news paper's weather for the day/night. Or find the same on the internet. Anything that points out low light could help you (cloudy night, partial moon, etc).

Any street lights out at the location?

The sound level of your car might even help. By that I mean, if you have a loud car, the cop (like everyone) assumes that because it's loud that you are driving fast. But that's clearly not the case. So you might want to get sound level measurements on your car, compared to stock cars. Even if you can't get the measurements, think about developing this side of your story.

Finally, what is your driving record? If it's clear, then REALLY play that up in court. You need to say how much you respect the danger of driving, and how you only drive your car hard at the track (if true). And because you go to the track and care so much about your car, stress how that makes you appreciate just how important it is to drive really tamely on public roads.

BTW, I don't think it means anything that the cop came to your door. If anything, that builds his argument (you were driving so fast, that he couldn't pursue safely in the meighborhood). I remember when I was in HS, an idiot got a ticket for speeding on the way to school. He saw the cop just as he was getting to the parking lot. So he raced in to the parking lot, and ran into the building. He was thinking that if the cop didn't catch him while in the car, he couldn't get a ticket. Obviously that is BS.

Anyway, I can't make the decision for you on whether to fight this, but if you do, I hope some of this helps you start to frame your side of the story. Remember to focus on hard facts. Things that no one can dispute. Good luck.
 
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