My bad...indeed I did.
Not the one I was thinking of, but yeah.....a car with full bolt-ons and gears, is not what I would consider "bone stock" by any stretch.
Is it? Looks clean.
What needs to be done to my 5.0 to keep up with 11 5.0's
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Not the one I was thinking of, but yeah.....a car with full bolt-ons and gears, is not what I would consider "bone stock" by any stretch.
Nope, pretty much just the engine is. I think that says a lot, though, since the Fox is working with about half the output as the new 5.0. I'd like to see this other car you guys are talking about, too.
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yeah, if i could break 12's ide be the happiest man alive, im certainly gonna give it a shot, i just gotta find an unmolested, healthy coupe.... $$$$$$... i think with tubular suspension and tire it could happen. 12.3's, i seriously doubt, but a 12.5-12.9 would be pretty awesome. the fact of the matter is, i can still make a fox outperform an 11 gt500 in every aspect out there, including vagina factor, for the same price as an 11 GT. thats why foxes own. /end thread
your absolutely right but thats not what i was saying, the op's original ? was what he had to do to keep up with stock 11's. which is really not very hard at all if you have about 1000 dollars to spend, NOS, tires, driver mod. haha.
how is that being unrealistic? hahaha
If I remember correctly, the hatch in that article stripped damn nearl everything...including the hatch. I dont' even recall it being road worthy in the end? The car is little more than and engine stand with wheels at that point.
Everyones got a different definition of a street car... im taking the crash bars out of my doors, no AC, no PS, no sound deadening, and i drive my car to and from the track as long as its within 100 miles. Some people would call it "not streetable" and i would call those people vaginas
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Have we come to a consensus since this was originally posted? This was a fun read! I especially liked what he had to say about people who call a car "not streetable."
I think H/C/I would have to be a premium setup to run door to door with an '11 GT. AFRs or trick flows with a port-matched decent intake and a custom cam. Then a transmission and supporting mods. That'd put you where you needed to be. I think a 150 shot on a stock motor or an S-trim pushing 15psi on an otherwise stock 5.0 should get you pretty close too.
I think H/C/I would have to be a premium setup to run door to door with an '11 GT. AFRs or trick flows with a port-matched decent intake and a custom cam. Then a transmission and supporting mods. That'd put you where you needed to be. I think a 150 shot on a stock motor or an S-trim pushing 15psi on an otherwise stock 5.0 should get you pretty close too.
even if you could make it keep up with a new mustang would you really want to drive it everyday? MPGs will likely be 10 or lower, probably no a/c, and you would still have all the issues an aging fox does. The 11 is brand new, gets great mileage, has all the creature comforts, and still has that new car smell.
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Lol that this thread is back. If I were to go against a stock '11 I'd destroy it. Haven't broken down once, got 23.78 mpg on my last 200 mile cruise (one time HEAVY acceleration and three passengers) and have zero creaks and groans. Ac still blowing cold and tunes cranked.
BUT, I know I'd still prefer a leisure cruise in the 2011 first.
6 in one, half a dozen in the other.
BUT, I know I'd still prefer a leisure cruise in the 2011 first.
6 in one, half a dozen in the other.
10mpg or lower? Really? A friend's HCI car gets around 21mpg mixed driving, and still has AC and power steering under the hood. My car which is way crazier than a HCI car and has 4.30 gears gets 13mpg avg. If anyone is getting 10mpg or worse with fuel injection and overdrive you are doing it wrong!
Both cars have no loans on them either, im not trading my fox for a 2011 anytime soon, ill hang onto my no power steering, no AC, too much for the street, street car. FWIW, i drove my car 150 miles in a day last week, didnt overheat, the only thing i had a problem with was the *******s on the road, and even a 2011 GT cant fix that
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Oh jesus...are we really comparing old cars, to new cars.....again!?!
Yes. Your turn.
Mr now a fox owner.
My Fox is an utter pile of scrap in every way in comparison to an '11-up GT.
And that would be "Mr again Fox owner". You weren't around here when I had my first, second, or third (below) Fox.
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BTW...it too paled in comparison to an '11
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Ya know...for the price, it doesn't sound half bad. For about 10K, you've got a reliable, trouble free turn key engine that'll have a 3,200lb Fox running 11's on street tires, runs on 87-octane, and get's 30mpg all day long. It's really not such a bad deal when you consider all of the money and effort required to accomplish the same feat with OHV parts?
One word Turbo 
, and the 1500 dollars of fuel componets to support 
. Oh and the four $100 explorer engines with stock H.O cams stuck in them (in the barn), also helps. One pops, I just stick another one in and go. I love my junkyard. I call it broke college student racing.
, and the 1500 dollars of fuel componets to support . Oh and the four $100 explorer engines with stock H.O cams stuck in them (in the barn), also helps. One pops, I just stick another one in and go. I love my junkyard. I call it broke college student racing.
I love the new car VS old car debate, for me, it's a no brainer. OLD CAR.
DD'ing a Fox is not for the faint of heart, and that's what I love about it. When I'm buzzing along a back country road, the exhaust drone making me deaf, each bump in the road making my ass numb, I'm enjoying myself. The new cars aren't that way, the ride is diluted, you're isolated from the road. That's not how a hot rod should be, IMO.
Besides, 5 years from now the 2011 will be yesterday's news. I've always thought that there's no sense in buying a new sports/muscle car, because in the first few years they lose appeal very quickly. Ford will release something better, and the 2011 5.0 will be out. Look at the 3V, everybody was spooging all over that car, now they fall in line with the old 2Vs as pretty much one of the less desirable mod motors. I still point and laugh when I see someone driving a 2010 GT.
The Fox body has already stood the test of time and is now more or less an icon of American hot rodding. The S197 has about 20 years to go before it can claim something like that.
DD'ing a Fox is not for the faint of heart, and that's what I love about it. When I'm buzzing along a back country road, the exhaust drone making me deaf, each bump in the road making my ass numb, I'm enjoying myself. The new cars aren't that way, the ride is diluted, you're isolated from the road. That's not how a hot rod should be, IMO.
Besides, 5 years from now the 2011 will be yesterday's news. I've always thought that there's no sense in buying a new sports/muscle car, because in the first few years they lose appeal very quickly. Ford will release something better, and the 2011 5.0 will be out. Look at the 3V, everybody was spooging all over that car, now they fall in line with the old 2Vs as pretty much one of the less desirable mod motors. I still point and laugh when I see someone driving a 2010 GT.
The Fox body has already stood the test of time and is now more or less an icon of American hot rodding. The S197 has about 20 years to go before it can claim something like that.
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