Build Thread 1978 Mercury Cyclone. The pig is in the pen.

[95BlueStallion]

I never use air tools either, aside from when an impact is absolutely needed. Even then I have fully air up my 30 gallon compressor to get the most out of it, or else its useless. Hope that one does the trick for you. Cant wait to see what you do with the garage, moving the wall and such. Might have to dub you Jesse James now that you have an official Monster Garage.

 

[CarMichael Angelo]

I never use air tools either, aside from when an impact is absolutely needed. Even then I have fully air up my 30 gallon compressor to get the most out of it, or else its useless. Hope that one does the trick for you. Cant wait to see what you do with the garage, moving the wall and such. Might have to dub you Jesse James now that you have an official Monster Garage.

I think the wife is leaving for the beach where her visiting sisters are vacationing. She'll be gone Today, Friday, and be back Saturday by noon.

Just for a minute let that be the case.......

Cause if it is I'll bring that wall down like it was in Berlin.

What I'm hopin' I can do is to cut a 6" section of the sheet rock across the top and bottom of the wall, to expose the nails, cut them btchs, and push it over like a domino. Then drag the whole heavy bastard in 4-5 feet, and stand it back up.

Least that's what I'm hopin.

I may have to remove the sheet rock if I can't make that happen and try it w/ just the wall framing, then I'll cover the whole thing back again in some sort of slat wall/peg board.

And try to do that all by myself.

If it all goes well, the wall will be moved by the time she gets back home, and she won't try to stop me from "diverting my attention" to the basement because it'll be too late.

 

[a91what]

Get er done!

 

[CarMichael Angelo]

Get er done!

It all starts tonight after I get home.....

 

[RangerJoe]

It may be nailed at the side too. I take it you have a reciprocating saw? That will make quick work of it.

Joe

 

[jrichker]

@madmike1157

Before you get too far, check out the span tables for flooring. Too much unsupported span will bring the house down upon your head.

Copied from http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/floor-joists-span-d_1479.html

Floor joists - maximum unsupported span

Max. Live Load 30 lbs/ft2 (1436 N/m2)

Max. Live Load 60 lbs/ft2 (2873 N/m2)

See https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=max+unsupported+span&spf=1498172344885 for more information.

Personally, I would first build a new wall where you want it and then take down the old wall while still keeping the span table data in mind.

 

[droopie85gt]

Sh*t, it's Alabama...every wall is a NON LOAD bearing wall! Until it isn't. Maybe nail a prop board to the wall on YOUR side, just in case it gets crazy and it decides to fall over on you and THEN you find out they doubled up the drywall to cut down on noise and that heavy beotch has you pinned down til Saturday noonish!

 

[RangerJoe]

I think he has already determined that it is not load bearing.

Joe

 

[CarMichael Angelo]

Alrighty then,...It's past the point of no return.

First to address the few that have concerns that I will bring the bedroom above falling down on my head.

This was a basement before it was a garage. The previous owner added the partition wall to divide the space so that her son could have a dedicated space to live in while he went to college..She created a living space, added a bathroom,..and a Mitsubishi room AC/Heat pump.

Now I don't know what kind of car ol dude parked in that single garage while he was going to college, but I can tell you this:

It wasn't the Monster.

When you put the Monster in there, there maybe an extra foot front to back....

But that was before 7:30 PM June 22, 2017.

Now,...it's a little longer.

Now I'm not sure what I want to do here,..I can either put up another wall deeper in, or I can just make the work and storage benches be the dividing partition. The garage door is insulated, so it really doesn't get hot down there....(when the garage door is closed) But it'll be a beast down there if I was to open the door and work in/out like I typically do. However, If I give myself enough room to work inside,.....I won't need to open the damn door.

The rest of the space is typical man cave.

Big ten inch 2 way pro audio speakers w/ built in 600 watt class D amplification, ( they play Gilbert O sullivan very loudly)..A 46" UHD TV, A small refrigerator/freezer for libation storage,..All that's missing is a couch, and my Herman Miller Eames lounge chair..
(look that one up and see what it is)

So whadya think?..... a wall or a bench?

 

[droopie85gt]

Damn, you're not the next star of Renovation Reality. So, I would put a wall with a door. If you grind/weld/paint/spill gas or oil, you'll probably want a little separation. If you need some kind a HVAC movement you can have the door open. If you need to close off the man cave from fumes while lounging in the Eames you can close it. Just googled Eames lounge chair. You know they 'spensive when the WalMart copy is $500.

 

[Davedacarpainter]

Bench, nothing says,"Mancave" like a Monster as the center point.

 

[jrichker]

Alrighty then,...It's past the point of no return.

First to address the few that have concerns that I will bring the bedroom above falling down on my head.

This was a basement before it was a garage. The previous owner added the partition wall to divide the space so that her son could have a dedicated space to live in while he went to college..She created a living space, added a bathroom,..and a Mitsubishi room AC/Heat pump.

Now I don't know what kind of car ol dude parked in that single garage while he was going to college, but I can tell you this:

It wasn't the Monster.

When you put the Monster in there, there maybe an extra foot front to back....

But that was before 7:30 PM June 22, 2017.

Now,...it's a little longer.

Now I'm not sure what I want to do here,..I can either put up another wall deeper in, or I can just make the work and storage benches be the dividing partition. The garage door is insulated, so it really doesn't get hot down there....(when the garage door is closed) But it'll be a beast down there if I was to open the door and work in/out like I typically do. However, If I give myself enough room to work inside,.....I won't need to open the damn door.

The rest of the space is typical man cave.

Big ten inch 2 way pro audio speakers w/ built in 600 watt class D amplification, ( they play Gilbert O sullivan very loudly)..A 46" UHD TV, A small refrigerator/freezer for libation storage,..All that's missing is a couch, and my Herman Miller Eames lounge chair..
(look that one up and see what it is)

So whadya think?..... a wall or a bench?

This is one of those times that I am glad that I was wrong; enjoy your new space.

 

[General karthief]

@jrichker, you where not wrong, you did not have accurate information,
I would leave it open, no wall, and regret it with every fuel system leak/repair, I am not handy with wood, drywall or most any home repair, renovation or remodeling. Remember, I'm the guy that attempted to weld wood.
I do have a couple Seals & Crofts cassette tapes you can have.

 

[CarMichael Angelo]

Damn, you're not the next star of Renovation Reality. So, I would put a wall with a door. If you grind/weld/paint/spill gas or oil, you'll probably want a little separation. If you need some kind a HVAC movement you can have the door open. If you need to close off the man cave from fumes while lounging in the Eames you can close it. Just googled Eames lounge chair. You know they 'spensive when the WalMart copy is $500.

Bench, nothing says,"Mancave" like a Monster as the center point.

This is one of those times that I am glad that I was wrong; enjoy your new space.

@jrichker, you where not wrong, you did not have accurate information,
I would leave it open, no wall, and regret it with every fuel system leak/repair, I am not handy with wood, drywall or most any home repair, renovation or remodeling. Remember, I'm the guy that attempted to weld wood.
I do have a couple Seals & Crofts cassette tapes you can have.

Firstly, the backstory on a stupidly expensive chair.....

The Wife and I were out drinking some twenty years ago, and the conversation turned to what I wanted as the ultimate gift for my first "big birthday".
I told her that what I wanted, and what she could afford were miles apart, and that she could just get me something reasonable.
"Shut up she said,...What are the things you want so I can make that decision myself."

So, I told her...."A 1980 Corvette, or a Harley.

"Oh.................Well that ain't happenin anytime soon" she reassures me.

When I get back home on the evening of my birthday, the chair, and ottoman were sitting in the corner.

"What do you think? she asks me, I said There isn't a kick stand, and it isn't made out of fiberglass, so it certainly isn't a Harley, or a Vette......Where did you get the Idea that I wanted one of these?

"You said you liked the one that was in Frasier's (from the TV series) loft. And this is something "iconic" that I can give you, and .........I can buy it for cost".

Well alrighty then.

If you looked you can see that the real HM Eames chair sells for 5k.

For a chair.............(I know)

She bought this thing for 1500.00 back in 1997 when the stupid thing retailed for 3999. I've since sat in it every night, It's where I'm sitting right now. In hindsight, it the only gift that she has ever bought me that I haven't gotten rid of after a few years, or went as part of a sale because it was car related.......

Wise woman,........... my wife.

After sleeping on it I've decided to leave the space open, because I agree......

I could put all of the typical man cave art, posters, and neon down there, and nothing would compete with the Monster if he was visible.

The Guardian shelving units that are on the right in the picture are going under the knife. I'm cutting them down to half size and making them benches. At 6' high, that'll mean that they end up at 36" high (perfect counter height). I'm going down there right now to cut one of them, before I go into work.

 

[droopie85gt]

My wife knew what HM Eames is...not I. Good height on the work counters...not worse than a counter or bench that is too high/low.

 

[90sickfox]

I like the idea of having the car in the man cave....kinda makes it the Monster cave.

I've always wanted to have lounge area around a nice car in a fantasy house I could never afford. I like the idea.

The fumes and such can be cut off from the house with the basement door.

However, if there is an air intake to the HVAC down there those fumes could be pumped all through your house. If you think cigarette smoke is hard to remove try gear oil fumes.

 

[Davedacarpainter]

Rig up a cheap exhaust evacuation system for the cave like shops have. You know what I mean, one that has essentially a hose that you hook to the exhaust and pulls the fumes outside.

Admittedly, you would have to make an adapter for your particular exhaust. I forget how many neat little mods you made for the monster.

Was that expensive chair the one a put my nasty dirty butt on while I was out there Mike?

 

[Mustang5L5]

My garage is the same way. It's tiny, and was built when cars were little. It's a 2 car garage, but you can't open the doors when you get inside, and it's too short to fit a real car in. My Taurus will not fit in it.

Perfect for the fox though, but that's it. So the fox owns the 2-car garage, and all lawn equipment goes in my shed in the yard. What I really need to do is talk to a contractor about replacing the front beam with a steel beam and converting the front 2 garage doors into a single oversized door.

 

[CarMichael Angelo]

I like the idea of having the car in the man cave....kinda makes it the Monster cave.

I've always wanted to have lounge area around a nice car in a fantasy house I could never afford. I like the idea.

The fumes and such can be cut off from the house with the basement door.

However, if there is an air intake to the HVAC down there those fumes could be pumped all through your house. If you think cigarette smoke is hard to remove try gear oil fumes.

It has a stand alone Mitsubishi HVAC unit for the basement,..not attached in anyway to the main HVAC system.
This house cost 279k. Alot even by my standards. When we started this "adventure " earlier in the year, the first house we were having built was 230k. Even that seemed high to me back then. None of this could be possible w/o the hard work and diligence of my wife Kate. Through the years, she was the one that earned enough to allow us to do something like this today. Neither of us going one day past HS.

I consider myself very fortunate, I've been married to her for 32 years now,...and I'm so grateful for her.

Rig up a cheap exhaust evacuation system for the cave like shops have. You know what I mean, one that has essentially a hose that you hook to the exhaust and pulls the fumes outside.

Admittedly, you would have to make an adapter for your particular exhaust. I forget how many neat little mods you made for the monster.

Was that expensive chair the one a put my nasty dirty butt on while I was out there Mike?

It was. Nothing's too good for you though Dave.
I won't run the car w/ the door closed primarily because of the goofy exhaust tail pipe, so exhaust fumes are not a concern.


I cut the one gladiator shelving unit in half yesterday. (Thought it was called guardian,....at least it started w/ a G)
It'll work out perfectly. The shelving is 6'.5" long, and I'll put the two pieces in an "L" shape along the wall and between the car and the man cave. I need to go buy a couple of pieces of 3/4" plywood to build as a top.

My tiny little compressor came in yesterday as well, and when I got home I started to put it together. The picture makes the thing look like any other compressor, except this one is tiny.
The only problem w/ my tiny compressor was that it had been dropped from about 6'. The compressor motor was broken off of it's mounts, the feet were bent, and the thing was leaking oil. As badly beat up as the packing was, this thing appeared to have been out of the box as well. I'm thinkin' it was returned by some bonehead that dropped it.

I took the thing back to the closest Lowes my GPS could find, and hand picked the box to replace the broken junker. The new box is sitting in the upper garage next to the Monster, and my new Schwinn bike. (that needs air in the tires).

The wife'll be back this afternoon,..and I'll have to re-focus on the main living area again. more picture hangin' and fru-fru junk before I can go back to the basement, but it's all good, I have a beautiful house,...a smart, hot wife, a great job, a completed car project.... and I am healthy.....(save for the knees).

How lucky am I?

 

[droopie85gt]

Pretty lucky. As our most of us who are married and our better half lets us have MAN time with our ride. Even if that means spending money on parts for a vehicle she probably wont ride in or yelling I am so done with this but looking at her like she is insane when she suggests to sell it. Yes lucky indeed.