5spd GT said:Brian is right on...
About the video: The gears DO NOT negate the use of the cobra intake, throttle body and underdrives. We all know those are decent mods for the 5.0L. So how does a 3:27 over a 3:08 make it negate those mods. That is like the difference between 3:55's and 3:73's...lol. Nothing major at all...the notch also had the headers...and a bit lighter...plus the we do not know the condition of the driver in the 4.6L...the guy in the notch was good. Also what mph did the roll start at? Was it optimum for the 5.0L or the 4.6L?
Plus, that car was hanging with the h/c/i car (a bit slow on the shifting)...but no surprise.
You can either take people's opinions, or those who have owned both and drove them daily/raced.
Oh and I love it when some bring up the "best" time and compare it to an average time...
Come back to Earth please.poneypower89 said:If you plan on not looking stupid, but better fit a blower under ur hood before the race.
Speeds8erM-1 said:The driver in the 03 GT was actually shifting pretty fast, it was a 40 roll. Headers dont do ALOT on the 5.0 and shortys are proven to not do much on a stock 2v car. About expected, my 88 GT with similar mods would pull my friend's 00 GT that had a filter, offroad h pipe and Flowmasters from a low roll, a 40 roll, even both of us rolling in 5th gear at 70 all the way to 150. I also ran another GT with the same mods from 40ish in my 88 GT and beat em by seveal cars more than once. The Notch is lighter but it's not aero and it doesnt have a fancy electric fan from the factory either.
Bone stock to bone stock the 99-04 should win but if you do the basic mods to both, get the cats off, exhuast, free mods, they get ALOT closer, do all the boltons (intake manifold for the 5.0, plenum & tb for the 4.6 and they run closer at the track but the 4.6 might start to pull from a roll, not 100% yet, trap speeds are close).
The 4.6 can make more power with boltons though but the area under the curve isnt as good, they do respond to gears which kind of negates this. My friend's 03 GT has put down 269 rwhp, boltons, stock manifolds. The notch in the video is probably in the 240-250 rwhp range.
5spd GT said:If that notch were to race my friend Matt's 00 Gt, it would not pull like that.
40mph isn't a bad role for either...
Just compare trap for trap...and equal vs. equal...the 4.6L wins.
Shorties helped my car out, I did feel a sotp feel to them...1 5/8in. mac shorties...i did them along with a shifter and gained (iirc) 1.5 mph?
Any accessory deletes on the notch? they didn't go up to that fast of a speed where aerodynamics would be a sig. difference. Also I believe the drag coefficients of the notch and 99+ sn95 are quite similar during Ford R&D testing...
5spd GT said:Well you don't see "stock" very often...you never know
99+ beats a stock 5.0L in equal trim in every performance category.
Radio is not an accessory, I was talking about engine accessories, something that actually effects performance...I'm guessing his smog pump was off since you didn't mention it.
Oh, and the shorties were with stock heads, cam, intake...
89white50 said:oh, who cares how fast you are after 100, who really takes it that high up often on the street?
Speeds8erM-1 said:Stock 5 Sped 87-93 5.0 is gonna beat down a 99-04 automatic. The automatics are a bit slower than the 5 speed cars, they usually run 9.4-9.5's@74-76 MPH.
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