"Blown" An Epic Campaign to V6 Mustang Superiority!

MSP said:

@MokotoS13

Actually, looking back through this thread, all your post have been BS.. So why dont you and I call a truce.. You and I can act as if we both dont exist.. This way, its easier for you to ignore this thread.. In fact, everyone can look back and agree, you have been posting negative things here from your very first post.. I have even kicked back props to you for the fine work you did on your japanese car.. Its obvious, you dont like American cars, and there is no need for any of us to try and change your mind man.. So just do us all a favor ok?

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I put him on ignore a while back. Seems like he's just trolling.

MSP said:

I got an idea to.. But if I tell you, I might get banned..

If you cant add anything constructive MakotoS13, then dont even reply in this thread man!! I have actually given you enough respect that I dont feel you should make dumb replies here.. Are you just bored man or what?

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it was a JOKE, genius. call me a troll and say i hate V6 stangs, i've defended the six packs tons of times and haven't once said its an inferior specimen. i've pointed out flaws that some of you have overlooked. i've noted that you should check the ranger boards for info on the 4.0's tranny options.

eat it with mayo n cheese buddy cause i've actually contributed to this discussion.

MSP et al..

Unfortunately, he doesn't even fit in with his own kind..

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=75453&page=1&pp=30

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=68004

http://www.car-forums.com/archive/t1645.html

So, let us just ignore him. It appears that he is somewhat infamous for his bad attitude and one line quips and cut-downs. Take the HIGH ROAD and just ignore him if it is offensive to you.

MakotoS13 - Your insights would be better observed and reviewed if, in fact you were somewhat articulate and spoke respectful. I have spent an hour reviewing your posts on the Nissian and Zilvia forums and you conduct yourself in the same manner. I feel that you do have valid points in many of your posts, however, your affectiveness is lost in your delivery. You cannot force people to see your opinion, even if in fact they may be valid. So, please, try to understand that in life you will get farther in trying to influence people if you are respectful and fair. Understand that everyone has a right to their opinion and dreams, even if you do not agree. If you have stated more than 3 times the same information or item and it is not being received, walk away. It is for the best in all you do in life.
Jenn

Jenns05Stang said:

MSP et al..

Unfortunately, he doesn't even fit in with his own kind..

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=75453&page=1&pp=30

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=68004

http://www.car-forums.com/archive/t1645.html

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three threads that are either jokes or me calling stupid crap stupid crap. my "kind" is original. it looks like i dont fit in because i don't, i refuse to. that would require me neglecting the developement of my brain.

It appears that he is somewhat infamous for his bad attitude and one line quips and cut-downs.

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can't really argue with infamous but my attitude is realistic and my tactic is harsh. weak minds would find it easier to simply claim that i have a bad attitude than really offer truth.

i am the objective view here. deal. i fit in with the kind that are enlightened. the end.

p.s. i dont expect anything. i simply offer.

weak minds would find it easier to simply claim that i have a bad attitude than really offer truth.

i am the objective view here. deal. i fit in with the kind that are enlightened. the end.

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Saying your genius doesn't make it so.

For anyone to assume that they are 100% correct in everything they say, is not only the height of hubris, it's also quite immature. You may feel you are "educating us ignorant masses" and believe that everything you say is correct, but that just isn't the case. Further, you certainly don't demonstrate much tact or diplomany in your responses. Sometimes, it's not what you say but how you say it that matters.

p.s. i dont expect anything. i simply offer.

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Yeah, you *keep* selling, but nobody's buying ...

I, for one, would like to see this post get back on topic...

NJstangpilot said:

Saying your genius doesn't make it so.

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i think "duh" pretty much covers this one.

For anyone to assume that they are 100% correct in everything they say, is not only the height of hubris, it's also quite immature.

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don't believe i even gave that implication. most of what i say is accurate because i put a lot of thought into just about everything i do. sure, i screw up all the time but when i offer advice on cars 99 times out of a hundred its accurate because i know my material cause i've put both thought and action into every mod for my car.

furthermore, you people are totally ignoring the fact that i like the new V6 platform and have even defended it within this very forum which pretty much proves me to be correct in the basic assumption that you guys just wanna believe what you want to believe.

so instead of venting your frustrations on me why don't you start seeing if the GT axle is a direct swap over? that would take care of your LSD and rear end strength prob cause the 7.5 is crap (otherwise i'd just throw a 302 in my ranger).

MakotoS13 said:

can't really argue with infamous but my attitude is realistic and my tactic is harsh. weak minds would find it easier to simply claim that i have a bad attitude than really offer truth.

i am the objective view here. deal. i fit in with the kind that are enlightened. the end.

p.s. i dont expect anything. i simply offer.

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Enlightened? You are THE person to talk to about all things mechanical? You have a couple good points, but I'm willing to bet you aren't enlightened. You seem more like a know it all.
Also, I wouldn't call your "attitude realistic and your tactics harsh". I'd call it more of an ******* approach. If you want to be taken seriously, start acting like a reasonable adult.

Slightly off topic but has anyone thought of getting up to 300 hp without supercharging? It can be done but would require replacing the heads, cam and/or intake. This is something I plan on doing at some point after my warranty expires. I personally don't need to beat a GT or Corvette or Cobra or any other car in that class any time soon. Not until the car is paid off anyway.

As long as I perform better than a Neon SRT-4 I'll be happy, I got cut off very rudely by one when I was trying to merge onto the Capital Beltway here in DC a couple of months back. As soon as I started accelerating and turned on my blinker to merge onto the Beltway he floored it and wouldn't let me me in, an SRT-4 is faster than my V6. He was a little ways behind and to the right of me when I turned on my blinker with plenty of room for me to move in. He was just being a jerk. Well now I've declared war against the SRT-4. I figure 300 horses should be enough to outperform one. If not then in another four years it will, it'll be paid off by then.

When my car is paid off though I'm going to change the engine internals with forged parts, replace the tranny and rear end then supercharge it... finances permitting. Should get me to at least 400 horses.

I didn't get a GT because I refused to pay a dealership $3000+ just for the privilege. Besides, I didn't have that kind of money anyway. At least now I can work on my car as I can afford it and some day it will be a great performer. Yes, I could trade it in a few years down the road for a GT but heck, working on it is half the fun.

Personally, I would much rather a Porsche.

well lets say the v6 is actually 210 (we know its not)
P&P heads (at least 30hp if not more)
intake, exhaust, tune (another 30hp?)
headers & high flow cats(5-15hp)
throttle body (nobody has one yet, but hopefully 5-10hp)

thats another 70-90hp right there, without cams.

vb101 said:

Slightly off topic but has anyone thought of getting up to 300 hp without supercharging? It can be done but would require replacing the heads, cam and/or intake. This is something I plan on doing at some point after my warranty expires. I personally don't need to beat a GT or Corvette or Cobra or any other car in that class any time soon. Not until the car is paid off anyway.

As long as I perform better than a Neon SRT-4 I'll be happy, I got cut off very rudely by one when I was trying to merge onto the Capital Beltway here in DC a couple of months back. As soon as I started accelerating and turned on my blinker to merge onto the Beltway he floored it and wouldn't let me me in, an SRT-4 is faster than my V6. He was a little ways behind and to the right of me when I turned on my blinker with plenty of room for me to move in. He was just being a jerk. Well now I've declared war against the SRT-4. I figure 300 horses should be enough to outperform one. If not then in another four years it will, it'll be paid off by then.

When my car is paid off though I'm going to change the engine internals with forged parts, replace the tranny and rear end then supercharge it... finances permitting. Should get me to at least 400 horses.

I didn't get a GT because I refused to pay a dealership $3000+ just for the privilege. Besides, I didn't have that kind of money anyway. At least now I can work on my car as I can afford it and some day it will be a great performer. Yes, I could trade it in a few years down the road for a GT but heck, working on it is half the fun.

Personally, I would much rather a Porsche.

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SRT-4's can be a handful for GT's also, they weigh quite a bit less...
So just aim for the GT power level, and you should be able to bark back at the SRT-4.

MakotoS13 said:

three threads that are either jokes or me calling stupid crap stupid crap. my "kind" is original. it looks like i dont fit in because i don't, i refuse to. that would require me neglecting the developement of my brain.




can't really argue with infamous but my attitude is realistic and my tactic is harsh. weak minds would find it easier to simply claim that i have a bad attitude than really offer truth.

i am the objective view here. deal. i fit in with the kind that are enlightened. the end.

p.s. i dont expect anything. i simply offer.

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Makoto,

You lost the whole lower portion of my post. If you continue from here, your 23rd year of life, with these same interpersonal skills, you are seeking failure. Placing someone in the proverbial headlock and jamming your point of view down someone's throat will not produce your desired response.

You want you viewpoint to be acknowledged as valid and correct. We all do. I have spent 10 more years than you correcting my delivery skills to achieve desired results. I have also learned when to throw in the towel.

I apologize if I placed you on the defensive by indicating your 3 posts were similiar to how you have interacted with us. Try something for yourself. When you come across a thread that you feel you can add valid content, or seek to change someone's mind. Phrase your opinions in the form of questions. Instead of the first joked response of bolting on a T56, ask it. Have you guys looked into swapping out the T3650 with a T56? Ideas, presented in questions, do a couple things, they make people think, and they are receptive to your ideas.

Your current delivery produces a brick wall affect. You come on strong and we all throw up our shields.

I do not ask for you to conform to the masses. HELL NO. I NEVER HAVE and NEVER WILL. But, I have learned to manipulate delivery of known information to my intended recipient so that they are open and will consider what I have to say.

Hey, some people once thought the world was flat and that we could never reach verticle thrust sufficient to break the atmosphere and look where we are today. We do not have all the answers. To close your mind to other people's information and dreams will do nothing BUT neglect the fundamental development of your brain.

You are a smart young man. No doubt about it. You are to be commended for reengineering a POS 1990 S13 into a freakin' wonder machine and you have valid points and much to offer. Welcome to the family, as dysfunctional as it is. Just go easy my friend.

OKAY - Back on topic - If we can to discuss the making of a 300+ HP V-6 without S/C why don't we make a new thread and leave this to MSPs original dream? I'm game.


Jennifer

Jenns05Stang said:

Makoto,

You lost the whole lower portion of my post. If you continue from here, your 23rd year of life, with these same interpersonal skills, you are seeking failure. Placing someone in the proverbial headlock and jamming your point of view down someone's throat will not produce your desired response.

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my abrassive nature is in no way accidental. none of you have the necessary equipment to make offend me, so don't worry about that.

i offer truth. if people are so arrogant as to neglect my view despite the well known facts i offer that's their problem.

MSP, in regards to S/C with a boost level of 8-9 lbs would not require an intercooler but would there be any benefit to intercooling at that boost level? I've seen S/C's for the 3.8L V6 in previous Mustangs that were intercooled but they were also set up for 14 lbs of boost. I don't read much about intercooling S/C's with boost levels under 10 lbs. Is this because the heat increase is not significant enough to warrant an intercooler or that it's just not cost effective for what little benefit it would give? I don't know much about S/C's but am learning as I do someday plan to S/C mine, probably when it's paid off.