Engine Cooling system Advice?

admLSC7 · Apr 21, 2020

Another question I came across is the timing cover gasket. Do you guys think I should bother when I do the water pump? Came across it in some reading and almost want to do it while I’m there.

Olivethefet · Apr 21, 2020

Is yours currently leaking?

7991LXnSHO · Apr 22, 2020

When the T-5 tailshaft bushing needed changed, my shop made the tool to go in after the seal was pulled, expand to hook on to the bushing and pulled it right out.
I swiped a pic of the type of tool from a youtube video. It also shows the general procedure. You do not need to hit your hand with the hammer.

View: https://youtu.be/4vAuDKDV-ok

Olivethefet · Apr 22, 2020

Yeah, if you can get your hands on one of those go that route for sure. The other way takes a lot longer and is harder in the long run.

admLSC7 · Apr 22, 2020

Olivethefet said:
Is yours currently leaking?

I can’t exactly tell. Hoping once I get things out I can get a better look.

Currently have a few leaks I’m tracking down bc she’s old and sits in winter. Definitely seem I have to do the lower intake manifold gaskets. Not doing the rear main seal until I can pull everything out. Mainly concerned about that since I’m in there.

admLSC7 · Apr 22, 2020

7991LXnSHO said:
When the T-5 tailshaft bushing needed changed, my shop made the tool to go in after the seal was pulled, expand to hook on to the bushing and pulled it right out.
I swiped a pic of the type of tool from a youtube video. It also shows the general procedure. You do not need to hit your hand with the hammer.
View: https://youtu.be/4vAuDKDV-ok

7991LXnSHO,

Good vid. Might be easier than removing the housing which I was intending to do. Pending I can make the tool. Thanks guy

admLSC7 · Apr 28, 2020

Decided to do the timing cover gasket while I’m in there. Also going to attempt the in car car oil pan gasket. Honest the front crank seal looks perfect after 30 years and I’m surprised. Main question is; I’ve done my homework but noticed the MarkVII Has the power steering pump bracket bolted to the studs on the water pump. Has anyone encountered this on their mustang? I have not been able to find a good write up on this in any searches, include MarkVII searches. Have a manual which I’ll double check but figured I’d ask you guys for some advice. Thanks in advance.

Olivethefet · Apr 29, 2020

I'm assuming you are talking about the big plate that bolt in tow or three places at the water pump then holds the power steering pump in two places? If so yeah. My mustang is like that. I'll see if I can find a picture.

Olivethefet · Apr 29, 2020

Here is a picture of what I'm taking about.

admLSC7 · Apr 29, 2020

Olivethefet said:
Here is a picture of what I'm taking about.

Not sure if I can see it in the picture there. I see the bracket for the AC compressor. Found a pic from yesterday. Blue arrow is pointing towards the bolt, which is actually a stud with a nut from what I can see.

admLSC7 · Apr 29, 2020

Olivethefet said:
I'm assuming you are talking about the big plate that bolt in tow or three places at the water pump then holds the power steering pump in two places? If so yeah. My mustang is like that. I'll see if I can find a picture.

Heading back over to the garage I’ll see if I can get a better picture

KRUISR · Apr 29, 2020

Here is my OEM setup from when I first got my car. I took these as I tore down the engine so I would not forget where everything went.

Engine and trans were bolted together and on a pallet when I bought the car so all accessories were still in place.

Olivethefet · Apr 29, 2020

Yeah, that setup appears to be doing basically the same thing the bracket on my car does, but your's is setup different. If no one else chimes in with pics or helpful comments by this evening I'll take some better pics of my car. I've never messed with a Mark before. I'm just trying to help you see how this setup is on a V8 Fox.

Olivethefet · Apr 29, 2020

Much better pic.

KRUISR · Apr 29, 2020

When the main front plate is removed here is the remaining PS bracketry. Shown with the rear mount for the AC compressor. From my other pics I count 3 mounting holes coming off the water pump studs.

Blown88GT · Apr 29, 2020

I did mine about 6 months ago. Some of the bolts/studs are likely seized to the timing cover. The bolts/studs/nuts kit cost more than the timing cover.

admLSC7 · Apr 29, 2020

KRUISR said:
Here is my OEM setup from when I first got my car. I took these as I tore down the engine so I would not forget where everything went.

Engine and trans were bolted together and on a pallet when I bought the car so all accessories were still in place.

Thanks for the pics KRUISER.
I ended up removing the PS pump completely and removed from the AC compressor which is currently suspended with a strap. There is no bracket like that on my car unfortunately. Definitely wish there was that’s for sure, wow that looks way easier. The power steering pump/ bracket is assembled to the pump and pulley. Whole thing had to come out to get the studs off the water pump. Seems you guys don’t have that on the stands unless later years. Bummed about that but it’s off now so I’m in for the long haul.

Have a manual I’ve had for 20 years and swear I was looking at it the other day too. Guess it grew legs can’t find it anywhere. Here’s a pic for both of you guys of the pump. 3 bolts hold it to the block and 2 attach the the longer water pump studs. Not the best pic.

Thanks again Olivethefet too

admLSC7 · Apr 29, 2020

Blown88GT said:
I did mine about 6 months ago. Some of the bolts/studs are likely seized to the timing cover. The bolts/studs/nuts kit cost more than the timing cover.

No way?! Really... always the little things. I was looking at the kit too but didn’t look at the price. Planning to reuse the cover. Honestly all the bolts came out perfectly. Even torque. Guess I got lucky, that or bc the car has been garaged it’s whole life. I was seriously shocked.

admLSC7 · Apr 29, 2020

Should I use black rtv or grey. Usually go with black. Not sure it makes a difference that much both solid. Also, held back on balancer when I removed the crank pulley. She moved a bit and I got it basically back to where it was. Anyone think this will be an issue?

General karthief · Apr 29, 2020

Balancer movement is not a problem, if you are pulling the timing cover it will have to come off anyway, I would suggest replacing that gasket too, it likely will leak if you don't.
While you have the balancer in hand I would replace it.
I use anti seize on the bolts for the cover and pump, coat the entire length of the bolt.

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