Getting my motorcycle endorsement soon what bike??

Is that your first bike? If yes, I think the gsxr may be too much bike for you.

I would go with the GSX-R. I do not ride, but everyone that I have talked to about getting into bikes has said to start with a 750, because after only a few months you'll have outgrown the 600 and you'll lose money on a trade. From what I understand the 2001 GSX-R's are one of the better years for them too.

If it is your first bike, get a CBR 600. Apparently they handle really well and it would give you a chance to get used to the power of a rice bike.

02nightmaregt said:

I would go with the GSX-R. I do not ride, but everyone that I have talked to about getting into bikes has said to start with a 750, because after only a few months you'll have outgrown the 600 and you'll lose money on a trade. .

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This always cracks me up, people that dont ride but give here say....If you out grow a 600 its normally because you want a track bike or you just want to be able to say you have a liter bike. On the street your not going to out grow a 600, unless its an older bike, the newer ones have alot of power and are alot lighter.

Blackone51 said:

For what it's worth I'm taking a class, called RIDE ALIVE. I really like the GSXR but the CBR styling is cool too. It's hard to decide so many great bikes.LOL O yeah thanks everyone for the great input, greatly appreciated.

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classes are a good start but they dont make up for experience....I would go with a 600, the new 600's are alot faster than people give them credit for. I dont know what your budget is but you could easily pickup an 03-05 600rr for around $4k, or any other 600 for that. I would also get a fuel injected bike, after owning both a carbed and FI, the FI has much better throttle response and starts up much easier. Most your 600's were FI starting in 01, except the r6 I think it went FI in 03 or 04. Also the Superhawk puts out about the same power as a 600, and in some cases the 600's have more power. I have watched a guy run a superhawk at the drag stip and only run low 11's....and then saw a guy on a 600rr run 10.7....so the people that say you out grow a 600 might say the same thing about a superhawk...either way your not going to get the bikes full potential on the street unless you ride like an idiot.

my vote is no bike at all, sorry dont mean to kill your buzz, i just personally think they are dangerous because of lack of caution from automobile drivers

D-BOI said:

my vote is no bike at all, sorry dont mean to kill your buzz, i just personally think they are dangerous because of jack ass riders that weave in and out of traffic

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fixt!

lol

I've seen it happen before. Some tool shed on a rice bike was weaving in and out of the rush hour traffic probably going at least 15-20 mph faster than everyone else. Well, he misjudged the location of a large white ford econoline work van and hit it with the rear of the bike. Man he was tossed real quick and the van ran over his bike. He lived through it and sure was lucky to be alive after that.

I just felt really bad for the driver of the van. I would hate to hit a motorcyclist, suppose he had died!!! That's messed up, and everytime I see a bumper sticker that says "look out for motorcycles" I think of this situation . The bumper stickers should say both "look out for motorcycles" and "don't drive your bike like a jack ass"

I keep waiting for this other dipchit I see almost every day on my commute home to get in an accident. He has a big noisy annoying harley and drives with complete disregard for himself and the people around him. Man, I hate that chit.

Alright, I normally don't come into this section of SN, but here's my advice.

Get a 600 or smaller to start with. Something used, that you won't cry for 3 weeks if you drop. You will lay it down. $3000 isn't much to get a nice bike, but you can get a used bike that needs some TLC or the previous owner dropped for that price. As far as the size of the motor, 600. You don't need anything more. 95% of people who ride won't ever be able to outride the potential of a 600. Even the guys who race reguraly, they don't max out their 600's. If you're dead set on a 750, or a liter bike, maybe you should buy a penis pump first. It will do about the same thing. I don't mean to attack you, but if you're asking about bikes here, that means you don't have a lot of knowledge on the subject. 600's are more forgiving than bigger bikes, lighter, and have plenty of grunt to get up and do what you want.

As far as your motorcycle endorsement, I'm not sure where you are, but here in NC, having your endorsement just allows you to carry a passenger. From the sounds of it, you're new to riding. PLEASE ride solo for a good while (at minimum 5,000 miles) to give hazzards an oportunity to present themselves. You don't want to have to do an emergency swerve and then slam on the brakes for the first time with a girl on the back. Carrying passengers changes everything about how your bike rides.

Sorry for the long post, and for the "mommy" perspective. Be safe, gear up, and keep the rubber side down.

I personally am a honda guy. My first bike was a 96 900rr. Comfortable bike and I could have been hurt a few times with it, fortunately I never fell with it. Any of the older 600's do feel slow but they handle a lot better than an older and bigger bike.



In the end it is your money and you will choose what you want. Just keep in mind that small mistakes on a bigger bike will become much more apparent a lot quicker and with a lot less effort. You wont be able to make a small stupid mistake on a bigger bike. I'm one of the guys that wouldn't have liked a 600, I rode my cousins 2005 600rr and it was really lightweight and I loved that but the power wasn't the same. I'm not a rider that liked revving the crap out of the motor so the 600 wasn't my kind of bike. I could ride around in 3rd on my 900rr and hit it when I wanted and still accelerate with ease, the 600rr couldn't do. The newer 600rr's (2007-current) have fixed this issue, but you don't have that kind of money to spend. I say get a loan and buy a 2007-newer 600.

D-BOI said:

my vote is no bike at all, cause I'm scared

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their now its fixed lol, but seriously you are right they are dangerous and you have to be on the lookout for other drivers at all times....but its worth it, I love riding. My wife was scared at first but after riding with me for the past few years she loves it just as much as me.

I am also a Honda guy. They are really dependable and I love the style, but any of the "big 4" in sport bikes as long as they are taken car of (which alot are not) should last for a long time. My first bike was a 00 CBR 600F4, It was a great first bike and I did get tired of it after 4 years...but it wasnt the power or lack of just wanted something newer. I now have an 09 600rr and I can tell it has a little more power but it handle so much better with the HESD.

aquill1 I dont know anyone that cruises around in 3rd gear unless they are dicking around...especially if you had a 2bros exhaust it would be loud as **** lol. and a 96 900rr is too much of a bike for a beginner...people get them all the time and the majority of them ending up wrecking them....and people get them because of their lack of knowledge of bikes. Like bynummustang if you want a 750 or liter bike a got get a penis pump instead. it comes back to 02nightmaregt " I do not ride, but everyone that I have talked to about getting into bikes has said to start with a 750" another person that doesnt ride giving advice on bikes, I have heard this quote from way too many people that have never even rode a bike.

GET THE SV! They're great starter bikes. You get more torque out of the twin, and they're easy to work on. The SV isn't as progressive on the ergo side of things. You won't get a tight back as quickly as you would on the the super-sport bikes (RR, R6, ZX, GSXR). The SV's can still be tossed into corners aggresively, and are pretty damn forgiving.

I didn't mean to come off as "that" guy earlier, but I recently went through the same crap with a buddy, and he wouldn't take my advise and now has a wrecked 2008 1000RR. With any bike, nay, any vehicle, you only go as fast as you tell it to go. On the bigger bikes, you can't just cruise off from a stop light in 1st or second, then pin it. You will wheelie away, especially if you have changed spockets (-1,+2) is the most common.

To give you some insight to why I am the way I am, I bought my '98 Kawi ZX6E when I was 18. Put it down once when I was 18. Rode another 7,000 miles and became a much better rider. I got myself in trouble riding at a quick pace and hit some grit and gravel in a turn. By the time my rear regained traction, I was about off the road. I stood it up, both brakes, and looked for a place to crash. All I could do with that bike, and my ability at that point. I then bought my '05 Kawi ZX6R (636cc). It is MUCH faster, more power, better brakes, but the most improved part is the weight and handling. My last wreck is still in the back of my head so I don't push it that hard, but still play around daily. The first weekend I had it, I passed my brother in first gear. I pulled even, paused, then pinned it. Guess what happened... wheelie time. That was with stock sprockets. It honestly scared the crap out of me. I hit the rear brake and set it back down. Yes I had ridden for a few years, but I still wasn't expecting the front to come up like it did since I had been used to my old bike.

Get a bike, all your gear (lid, jacket, gloves, pants, and boots) and take it slow. Do not outride your ability. I ride with a buddy who has probably 50,000 miles on two wheels. He doesn't mind when the bike acts up. He swings the rear out in turns like we do on 4 wheels. Get experience, and enjoy!

i wouldnt take a street bike if you gave it to me. they are uncomfortable to ride and even the 600's are just plain FAST!! My Harley is a 1340 and it doesnt have anything on a 600 rice bike. personally i would say start out with a cruiser to get comfortable with bikes. you can get a honda rebel for CHEAP and chop it up and make it look awesome! i know of too many people that have been killed acting stupid on a street bike.

BTW check the insurance on a street bike first. the insurance for full coverage is usually as much as the payment.

For you, I'd say stay away from the SuperHawk. I would buy it for me, but use my Ninja as primary bike. I can't really say anything about the SV unless I saw it and looked it over in person.

Everything I probably would have said about the 750, or 1000 have pretty much already been said, so I'll avoid being "that guy." That SV looks good from the pics, but the rebuilt title means you should low-ball the hell out of them. I'd guesstimate an 01 SV to be worth $3500ish with a clean title, so I'd go at least half of that. In all honesty, I'd probably offer $1500 at most. I almost picked up a clean title 99 SV650 for $1800 about a month ago, but I couldn't get my schedule to jive with the seller's, so I had to pass. Great bikes.