Intake and T/B Installed

[Guero]

well i finally installed my intake,70mm t/b and pullies. I really didn't notice a difference, but ill see tomorrow when i go to the track. I really didn't step on it also. I just need to install my gears. $400 to install them so im looking around thats to much

 

[GRGT1994]

$400 for gear is not too bad. Especially if it's a good shop that you trust.

Surprised you didn't get any SOTP out of that install though. Adjust the timing?

 

[94GTLaserRC]

well i finally installed my intake,70mm t/b and pullies. I really didn't notice a difference, but ill see tomorrow when i go to the track. I really didn't step on it also. I just need to install my gears. $400 to install them so im looking around thats to much

Too large of TB without enough supporting power mods.
RC

 

[CManT1914]

Too large of TB without enough supporting power mods.
RC

I disagree. I did my throttle body shortly after the intake, and I gained a nice amount of power with them. Enough to go from a 14.8@95mph to a 14.1@99mph. So I don't think the throttle body isn't "too large".

Did you get all the vacuum lines hooked up right?

 

[5.0_GT_kid]

Something is not right if you didn't notice a SOTP gain with those mods...either your butt dyno is off or something is wrong with the car.

 

[94GTLaserRC]

I disagree. I did my throttle body shortly after the intake, and I gained a nice amount of power with them. Enough to go from a 14.8@95mph to a 14.1@99mph. So I don't think the throttle body isn't "too large".

Did you get all the vacuum lines hooked up right?

I respectfully disagree that ONLY a TB upgrade to a 70 is going to get you 7/10s without something else involved (driving, track conditions, etc). It is simply not possible.
RC

 

[CManT1914]

I respectfully disagree that ONLY a TB upgrade to a 70 is going to get you 7/10s without something else involved (driving, track conditions, etc). It is simply not possible.
RC

I think you might have misunderstood me, I meant I gained that from BOTH the intake and throttle body. Not the throttle body alone. That's ludacris, lol! Although the ET might be a result of my slightly better 60' I got, the mph speaks for itself.

I gained a nice amount of power with them.

 

[Guero]

whats a SOTP? and like a said i haven't steped on it. and the timing is at 10*

 

[94GTLaserRC]

whats a SOTP? and like a said i haven't steped on it. and the timing is at 10*

It's OUR way of measuring horsepower, as opposed to the dyno:

Seat Of The Pants....how much you get the nice feel of being thrown back!!

RC

 

[94GTLaserRC]

I think you might have misunderstood me, I meant I gained that from BOTH the intake and throttle body. Not the throttle body alone. That's ludacris, lol! Although the ET might be a result of my slightly better 60' I got, the mph speaks for itself.

I did...think you meant TB only.. I wanted to go but I was trying to be nice

With that said, 0.7 is still quite a bit for those 2 only, so im sure a couple tenths could have been attributed to misc factors.

I have read on here and seen locally people getting 5-7 tenths with intake, tb and MAF.

(I hope Mike doesnt read this )
RC

 

[CManT1914]

I did...think you meant TB only.. I wanted to go but I was trying to be nice

It's all good. I actually wanted throw up the sign about your "too large" comment, but I decided against it.

Yea, no doubt part of the reduction was due to my 60'. I went from a 2.2, to a 2.1, but the mph is a lot better, and that generally is not effected a lot (if at all) by the 60'. So I thought it helped me out quite a bit.

 

[RFMustangGT]

you need heads to really feel it. someone along the way once told me about intake swaps with out head work and put it like this..... it's like going from a medium drink to a large drink at mcdonalds. you are still drinking from the same size straw.

drink size= intake
straw=heads.

 

[Black95GTS]

After my intake swap a month and half or so ago, I didn't notice much additional SOTP feel either. I noticed it on the highway and how it performed in the mid to high rpms... world of difference. Less immediate satisfaction but I can just feel it rev easier. Honestly it actually felt like I lost a tiny bit on the small end. When you put the gears in they will compliment each other.

Adam

 

[final5-0]

well i finally installed my intake,70mm t/b and pullies. I really didn't notice a difference, but ill see tomorrow when i go to the track. I really didn't step on it also. I just need to install my gears. $400 to install them so im looking around thats to much

I do know how you feel about not being able to tell much difference with your new mod

Most mods, done one at a time, are like that if other things in the path are still in place to offer a restriction to the air flow such as your stock heads.

An intake on stock heads will give a gain but it is not gonna be felt like some 373's or 410's. At this point in time, I don't think that tb is doing a whole lot but ...... it sure ain't gonna hurt anything.

Considering a stocker is right around 200rwhp ............................

If you did a mod that gave a 20rwhp gain ...................

Thats only a 10% gain over all
10% of anything ain't much

NOW ...... when you get those 373's in place

YOU WILL FEEL THAT MOD

One last thought ......

Might wanna reset the pcm if you did not disco the battery during your intake install.

Grady

 

[a50sn95]

Personally, I don't understand the whole "too large" issue with the TB. I don't think there is such a thing. Yeah, it may alter the way the car behaves, but I think it's something you have to adjust for. To me, you are just removing restriction by going to a larger TB. Of course, you have to have a way to adjust for it (Like a Tweecer...), so this is probably why there are so many issues with larger TB on our cars.
Anyway, just my .02.....
Dennis

 

[5.0_GT_kid]

whats a SOTP? and like a said i haven't steped on it. and the timing is at 10*

I'd bump up that timing...pry shoot for 13* or 14*

 

[Guero]

im gonna keep timing till i put in my gears

 

[Guero]

The car is now leaking oil. What should i check for? And it has oil inside the upper intake. Is the Pcv Valve sucking to hard or something?

 

[a50sn95]

Changing the timing now won't hurt anything, and is easy to do. If you hear it pinging, turn it back down.....
Oil in the intake is NOT uncommon. Most people put in an oil seperator. If you do a search, you'll see some ideas.
Are you running a breather on the V/C?
Oil leaking is probably the valley seals. They are tricky. Sorry to say the only way to stop it is to pull it back apart.....

 

[Guero]

Changing the timing now won't hurt anything, and is easy to do. If you hear it pinging, turn it back down.....
Oil in the intake is NOT uncommon. Most people put in an oil seperator. If you do a search, you'll see some ideas.
Are you running a breather on the V/C?
Oil leaking is probably the valley seals. They are tricky. Sorry to say the only way to stop it is to pull it back apart.....

i had to take it apart any way, injector was leaking. and whats a breather? haven't noticed oil since.