Intake and T/B Installed

CManT1914 said:

I disagree. I did my throttle body shortly after the intake, and I gained a nice amount of power with them. Enough to go from a 14.8@95mph to a 14.1@99mph. So I don't think the throttle body isn't "too large".

Did you get all the vacuum lines hooked up right?

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I respectfully disagree that ONLY a TB upgrade to a 70 is going to get you 7/10s without something else involved (driving, track conditions, etc). It is simply not possible.
RC

94GTLaserRC said:

I respectfully disagree that ONLY a TB upgrade to a 70 is going to get you 7/10s without something else involved (driving, track conditions, etc). It is simply not possible.
RC

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I think you might have misunderstood me, I meant I gained that from BOTH the intake and throttle body. Not the throttle body alone. That's ludacris, lol! Although the ET might be a result of my slightly better 60' I got, the mph speaks for itself.

CManT1914 said:

I gained a nice amount of power with them.

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Guero said:

whats a SOTP? and like a said i haven't steped on it. and the timing is at 10*

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It's OUR way of measuring horsepower, as opposed to the dyno:

Seat Of The Pants....how much you get the nice feel of being thrown back!!

RC

CManT1914 said:

I think you might have misunderstood me, I meant I gained that from BOTH the intake and throttle body. Not the throttle body alone. That's ludacris, lol! Although the ET might be a result of my slightly better 60' I got, the mph speaks for itself.

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I did...think you meant TB only.. I wanted to go but I was trying to be nice

With that said, 0.7 is still quite a bit for those 2 only, so im sure a couple tenths could have been attributed to misc factors.

I have read on here and seen locally people getting 5-7 tenths with intake, tb and MAF.

(I hope Mike doesnt read this )
RC

94GTLaserRC said:

I did...think you meant TB only.. I wanted to go but I was trying to be nice

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It's all good. I actually wanted throw up the sign about your "too large" comment, but I decided against it.

Yea, no doubt part of the reduction was due to my 60'. I went from a 2.2, to a 2.1, but the mph is a lot better, and that generally is not effected a lot (if at all) by the 60'. So I thought it helped me out quite a bit.

you need heads to really feel it. someone along the way once told me about intake swaps with out head work and put it like this..... it's like going from a medium drink to a large drink at mcdonalds. you are still drinking from the same size straw.

drink size= intake
straw=heads.

After my intake swap a month and half or so ago, I didn't notice much additional SOTP feel either. I noticed it on the highway and how it performed in the mid to high rpms... world of difference. Less immediate satisfaction but I can just feel it rev easier. Honestly it actually felt like I lost a tiny bit on the small end. When you put the gears in they will compliment each other.

Adam

Guero said:

well i finally installed my intake,70mm t/b and pullies. I really didn't notice a difference, but ill see tomorrow when i go to the track. I really didn't step on it also. I just need to install my gears. $400 to install them so im looking around thats to much

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I do know how you feel about not being able to tell much difference with your new mod

Most mods, done one at a time, are like that if other things in the path are still in place to offer a restriction to the air flow such as your stock heads.

An intake on stock heads will give a gain but it is not gonna be felt like some 373's or 410's. At this point in time, I don't think that tb is doing a whole lot but ...... it sure ain't gonna hurt anything.

Considering a stocker is right around 200rwhp ............................

If you did a mod that gave a 20rwhp gain ...................

Thats only a 10% gain over all
10% of anything ain't much

NOW ...... when you get those 373's in place

YOU WILL FEEL THAT MOD

One last thought ......

Might wanna reset the pcm if you did not disco the battery during your intake install.

Grady

Personally, I don't understand the whole "too large" issue with the TB. I don't think there is such a thing. Yeah, it may alter the way the car behaves, but I think it's something you have to adjust for. To me, you are just removing restriction by going to a larger TB. Of course, you have to have a way to adjust for it (Like a Tweecer...), so this is probably why there are so many issues with larger TB on our cars.
Anyway, just my .02.....
Dennis