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martyd

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I dont know if it bothers anyone else but wtf is up with exhaust companies. I understand r/d cost money and all but these people want like $190+ for a o/r x pipe. Nothing special but 2 pipes that cross each other. Does this not seem retarded? Headers I can understand being a little pricey, mufflers I can understand, but just simple pipes that are welded together? WTF.

This is the first time I have avidly looked at aftermarket off the shelf parts like this. I have allways gone the custom route because I can use a Tig at any time but I am 2500 miles away from it now and am dieing to do something with the exhaust.
 

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Thats what they cost bro....if u dont like it dont buy it
 

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i paid $109 for my summit h-pipe....
 

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ive been wanting a brassini (sp) cat back for years but im not willing to part with six bills for it. I figure that with the econ. like it is they will get tired of sitting on them and lower the price.
 

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aar0s said:
ive been wanting a brassini (sp) cat back for years but im not willing to part with six bills for it. I figure that with the econ. like it is they will get tired of sitting on them and lower the price.
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Not likely. When you consider that Bassani makes the exhaust system out of stainless steel and it has a lifetime warranty and the fit and finish is perfect, then I doubt that they will lower the price anytime soon. O.K. maybe 15-50 bucks lower but not to the point of making it affordable to you. With exhaust you get what you pay for. I once spent 8 hrs trying to put 5.0 headers on that were the "cheap" kind, you know, under $125.00. They would not fit, period. I got a set of quality headers (read that much more expensive) and then went on in under 1 hr. plus they will last 10 times as long as the "cheapo" type.
 

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2.5" brother's performance o/r h pipe... they had a sale.. i bought mine for 99 bucks.
 

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2.5" brother's performance o/r h pipe... they had a sale.. i bought mine for 99 bucks.
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They have really good prices on a number of things. Good website
 

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Bullitt347 said:
Not likely. When you consider that Bassani makes the exhaust system out of stainless steel and it has a lifetime warranty and the fit and finish is perfect, then I doubt that they will lower the price anytime soon. O.K. maybe 15-50 bucks lower but not to the point of making it affordable to you. With exhaust you get what you pay for. I once spent 8 hrs trying to put 5.0 headers on that were the "cheap" kind, you know, under $125.00. They would not fit, period. I got a set of quality headers (read that much more expensive) and then went on in under 1 hr. plus they will last 10 times as long as the "cheapo" type.
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sad but true
 

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You could always go buy yourself a couple of 6-foot sticks of 2 1/2" stainless at $75 each, then spend another $250 for a cheapo pipe bender that will crimp the tubes where they're bent or spend $5,000 on a nice mandrel bender, a couple of hundred for a flanger and another $450 for a decent welder and make it yourself. Makes sense to me.
 

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You could always go buy yourself a couple of 6-foot sticks of 2 1/2" stainless at $75 each, then spend another $250 for a cheapo pipe bender that will crimp the tubes where they're bent or spend $5,000 on a nice mandrel bender, a couple of hundred for a flanger and another $450 for a decent welder and make it yourself. Makes sense to me.
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I 2nd the brothers perf. or summit pipe, cost effective for an off road pipe.
 

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2 45 degree bends, a means to cut the corner out of each one, and $15 to $20 at a exhaust shop to get them welded together. Bam a X Pipe. Dont over complicate things. There are whole intercooler kits on ebay for sale with a number of mandrel bends for like $200, jcwhitney sells piping real cheap, so a company that mass produces 2 45 degree bends that have been cut and welded together are charging $190+ for them? The over head on the product as far as manufactoring equipment has been recouped a long time ago because for a company of these sizes a computer ran tig, $15000 mandrel bender, and raw piping is nothing.

I understand sell it for what you can get for it but jesus christ that just seems like a little much considering the materials that are going into it and being I have done custom exhaust for a couple customers, freinds, and myself the amount of work really is nothing. I'll end up doing it custom ion this case to but I will have to be happy with a mig insted of a better tig welder.
 
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This is a pretty stupid thread. You have to pay to play...
 

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2 45 degree bends, a means to cut the corner out of each one, and $15 to $20 at a exhaust shop to get them welded together. Bam a X Pipe. Dont over complicate things. There are whole intercooler kits on ebay for sale with a number of mandrel bends for like $200, jcwhitney sells piping real cheap, so a company that mass produces 2 45 degree bends that have been cut and welded together are charging $190+ for them? The over head on the product as far as manufactoring equipment has been recouped a long time ago because for a company of these sizes a computer ran tig, $15000 mandrel bender, and raw piping is nothing.

I understand sell it for what you can get for it but jesus christ that just seems like a little much considering the materials that are going into it and being I have done custom exhaust for a couple customers, freinds, and myself the amount of work really is nothing. I'll end up doing it custom ion this case to but I will have to be happy with a mig insted of a better tig welder.
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Dude, I don't know if you've ever looked at a Mustang mid-pipe, but it's a helluva lot more than two 45* bends.
 

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You're absolutely right, it's outrageous! Now, start a company with bassani level quality mid-pipes and sell them for $50 each. I'll buy one just for the novelty of it, and your competition will bring down their ridiculous prices. Call them "marty's mid-pipes"

Chris
 

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I agree. I think exhaust is double the money versus when I got into Mustangs in 2000. I remember buying a Flowmaster cat-back for under 200 dollars....now they are like 350-279+...WTF??
 

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I agree. I think exhaust is double the money versus when I got into Mustangs in 2000. I remember buying a Flowmaster cat-back for under 200 dollars....now they are like 350-279+...WTF??
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See that is what I was trying to say I guess. Plus I am not speaking on the whole mid pipe I am talking about just the x pipe and around a foot on each side of it.
 

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Gotta think people, there is more than just the cost of material involed. On top of the R&D, the is manufacturing cost, ( bending, welding, packaging..etc) then transportion to retailor( fuel isnt cheap), and the retailors mark up.
 

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The tailpipes.. the FRIGGEN tailpipes i just bought were like 250. Not even the full exhaust , from the muffler back.

I totally understand where you are coming from. The only mods to my car are exhaust because its so expensive. When i was 17-18 back in 99-00 exhaust didn't cost as much. At least i feel like it didn't.
 

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Price gouging. Let me ask. I am in Idaho but live in TN, going back in January. If I were to design and fabricate a exhaust for a 87-93 fox and sent it to somebody would you do a review. Cause I know I have the ability to design a free flowing exhaust that will be fair priced.
 

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Mustang exhaust is CHEAP!

I've been looking up pricing on G35 exhaust systems and i would gladly pay $190 for a mid-pipe, and $300 for a cat-back.

A fullexhaust system is like $1500 for single exhaust!
 
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